Updated 11 Jul 2009
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WIRKSWORTH Parish Records 1600-1900
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Posted 4 July 1901 from Dublin, Ireland with 1d Lilac stamp to:
"R.E.E.Chambers Esq, Hopton Hall, Wirksworth, Derbyshire"
Posted in Dublin 6.30pm.
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In Wirksworth the next day.
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Between 1840-1900, the "penny lilac"
was the most used of all stamps,
56 billion being issued.
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Edith Frances Chandos-Pole
wife of Richard E.E.Chambers
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Letter to Hopton Hall, 1901
This envelope, obtained on Ebay, is addressed to an unusual name
at a very important address in Wirksworth.
The Internet and Google have unearthed the following
information about R.E.E.Chambers of Hopton Hall.
Richard Edward Elliot Chambers was an artist, born in Ireland,
who married into
the wealthy Chandos-Pole-Gell of Hopton Hall, near Wirksworth.
The bride was 36 at the time. The
circumstances may be told in documents held
in the Gell papers in the Derbyshire Record Offices.
Richard's father was Edward Chambers MA, of Crow Park and Fosterstown,
Co.Meath, Ireland, Barrister-at-law
Richard Edward Elliot Chambers, born 1863, married in
1894 at St George Hanover Square (London) to Edith Frances
Chandos-Pole, fourth daughter of Henry Chandos-Pole-Gell of
Hopton Hall, near Wirksworth (see
Chandos-Pole-Gell)
Judging by his painted works,
Richard Chambers was a great traveller:
1889 California, Mexico; 1890 Canada, Rockies; 1891 New Mexico;
1892 California. After marriage, in 1894 Sahara; 1895 Algeria,
Middle East; 1896 South Africa.
Richard E.E. Chambers is credited with writing:
"The Pole Family and the Forty-Five",
"Chandos and Lawson families",
"on Sir John Chandos", and
"Duke of Wellington's first school".
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and many paintings, including:
"Camp in the Sierra Madres, California" (1889)
"A Horse Ranch in the Rocky Mountains, Colorado" (1890)
"A Zuni Indian", (1891)
"Ostrich Farm, Norwalk, California", (1892)
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The letter was posted at 6.30 pm in Dublin and within
24 hours had reached the sorting office at Wirksworth,
80 miles by ferry then 130 miles by rail (flying hadn't
been invented in 1901). Today (2009) the Dublin-Holyhead ferry
takes 3½ hours and the fastest rail connection is 6 hours,
making a total of 9½ hours. The postage was 1d
(about 30 minutes work by an Agricultural labourer who earned
£46 per year, see Relative value of
Sums of Money). Email is faster, but would leave no record
that the researcher could handle in 100 years time.
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CHANDOS-POLE-GELL and CHAMBERS families
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1833 1829 1835
Henrietta 1851 Henry 1869 Teresa
Auriol =====v=====CHANDOS================================v====Charlotte
DRUMMOND | POLE | MANNINGHAM
HAY | GELL | BULLER
1868 | 1902 | 1911
| Edward |
| Elliot 1857 Elizabeth |
|--------|-----------|----|-----|--------| CHAMBERS====v===NARROWAY |
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1853 1854 1856 1858 1858 | 1872
Cicely Margaret Katherine Edith Mabel | Harry
Eleanor Ermentrude Laura Frances Alice | Anthony
1935 1927 1870 1922 1858 |----| 1934
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1829 | | | 1863 |
Edmund | | 1850 | Richard |
Waldo Cicely Margaret Robert Edith Edward Henry 1876
MEAD 1879 Eleanor Ermentrude 1879 Wynter Frances 1894 Elliot Anthony 1908 Ada
WALDO===v===CHANDOS CHANDOS====v====BLATHWAYT CHANDOS==v===CHAMBERS CHANDOS===v===ISMAY
1896 | POLE POLE 1936 POLE | 1944 POLE |
| 1935 1927 | GELL |
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1896 1905
Edward Auriole Gwendoline
Chandos Hermione Margaret
Elliot Dorothy Elliot
CHAMBERS CHAMBERS CHAMBERS
1916
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Watercolours by Richard Chambers
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"A Horse Ranch in the Rocky Mountains, Colorado" 1890
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"A Zuni Indian" 1891
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"Ostrich Farm, Norwalk, California" 1892
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- Richard Edward Elliot Chambers California (1863-1944)
"Four photographs framed together: Lawn Tennis at the Sphinx House and
S.A.Sumner's House, Los Angeles"
photographs, framed, inscribed in ink: margins sight sizes:
H4 3/8" W7 1/2"; H4 1/4" W7 1/4"
- Richard Edward Elliot Chambers
(American 1863-1944) Cannes and Bordighera: Group of Four Works Each
a sepia photograph mounted on board, two with second photo on verso;
each apparently in good condition. Each framed.* Each approximately: 8-1/8 x 10-1/2 in (21.6 x 26.7 cm)
- Richard Chambers (American 1863-1945) Navajo Country, New Mexico
Signed R.E.E.C. and titled l.r. Watercolor on paper board
Sight size: 10 x 14-1/2 in (25.4 x 36.8 cm)
- CHAMBERS, Richard E E (1863-1944, American)
View of Zuni, New Mexico, s.d.1881 i.verso W/C pencil Works on paper
(14x10in).
- CHAMBERS, RICHARD E. E. (1863-1944)
Bonhams & Butterfields: USA
Auction Date: 1994
- "View Near the Kraai River, In the Sahara, Cabin in the Trees and Wapiti:"
Four Works The first, signed with the artist's initials "R.E.E.C." and
dated "Ap 4th 1896," l.l., also inscribed "S. Africa/Near Kraai River/Alival
North," l.r.; the second, signed with artist's initials "R.E.E.C." and
dated "Sahara 1894," l.r.; the third, inscribed "I slept in this cabin/for
three nights in Oct. 1890/spent three nights in this cabin/Oct. 1890/
copied this March 1913," l.l.; the fourth, signed with artist's initials
"R.E.E.C." inscribed "Wapiti/shot in Rockies" and dated "1890,"
l.l. graphite on paper (4) Sight: 5-1/2 x 8-1/2 in (13.3 x 21.6 cm);
Sight: 5-3/4 x 8-3/4 in (14.5 x 22.2 cm); 9 x 7-1/2 in (22.9 x 19.1 cm);
9 x 5-3/4 in (22.9 x 14.5 cm) There is a biographical note about the
artist attached to the backing of each work.
- "Camp in the Sierra Madre's, California",
watercolor, 10" x 14", signed, dated and inscribed lower right:
"R.E.E.C./1889/California".
- "A Zuni Indian", watercolor, 14 1/8" x 10", signed,
dated and inscribed lower right: "Zuni, New Mexico/R.E.E.Chambers/1891",
14" x 10".
- "Ostrich Farm, Norwalk, California", watercolor, 10" x 14",
signed, dated and inscribed lower right: "R.E.E.C./1892./California".
- A horse ranch in the Rocky Mountains/In the Rockies, 1890
Watercolour/paper 10x14 inches (26x36 cm) signed.
- "View at San Benito, Mexico" signed R.E.E C. and dated
Jan. 1889, l.r.; also titled S. Benito. Mexico, l.l.; pencil on paper;
sight: 5 - x 9 inches.
- "Ostrich and her chicks" inscribed California,
l.r.; pencil on paper, sight: 8 5/8 x 5/8 inches.
- "On the road from Chetman to Biskra" inscribed Chetma to Biskra,
dated 1895 and signed with the artist's initials R.E.E.C.,
1.r.; watercolor on paper; sight: 6 x 9 inches.
- "View in the Middle East" signed R.E. Elliot Chambers and
dated 1895, 1.r.; watercolor on paper; sight: 9 3/4 x 16 inches.
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10.Henrietta Auriol Drummond-Hay, d.21 Mar 1868;
m.9 Jul 1851 Henry Chandos-Pole-Gell, of Hopton Hall (10 Jan 1829-31 Oct 1902)
10.1. Cicely Eleanor Chandos-Pole-Gell, d.15 Jun 1935;
m.24 Jun 1879 Edmund Waldo Meade-Waldo,
of Stonewall Park and Hever Castle (13 May 1829-14 Mar 1896)
10.1.1. Margaret Alice Meade-Waldo (5 Apr 1882- );
m.Edward Drummond-Hay***
10.1.2. Katharine Auriol Meade-Waldo (16 Dec 1883- );
m.1st 20 Jan 1909 Rev John Henry Freake Van (d.1915);
m.2nd 1917 John Young --> issue, 1st m.
10.2. Margaret Ermentrude Chandos-Pole-Gell, d.7 Mar 1927;
m 9 Oct 1879 Robert Wynter Blathwayt (7 Jul 1850-2 Nov 1936)
10.3. Katharine Laura Chandos-Pole-Gell, d.30 May 1870
10.4. Edith Frances Chandos-Pole-Gell, d.6 Dec 1922;
m.11 Sep 1894 Richard Edward Elliot Chambers (7 Apr 1863-1944)
10.4.1. Edward Chandos Elliot Chambers (4 Apr 1896-k.a.Authuille Wood 1 Jul 1916)
10.4.2. Auriol Hermione Dorothy Chambers
10.4.3. Gwendoline Margaret Elliot Chambers
10.5. Mabel Alice Chandos-Pole-Gell, d.an Infant
D258/57/18/19-20 1894
Suggested terms for marriage settlement of
Edith Frances Chandos Pole Gell with
Richard Edward Elliot Chambers, with letter
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D258/65/6/1-24 1916
Letters to Harry Chandos Pole Gell from other captains with war news,
including correspondence re his retirement from the command of the
176th Infantry Brigade and appointment as County Commandant of
Volunteer Corps
Includes:
D258/65/6/13 Telegraph with newspaper cuttings re death of
Lieu Edward Chandos Elliot Chambers, 1 Jul
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RICHARD EDWARD ELLIOT CHAMBERS, of Fosterstown, Trim, Co Meath,
and now of Holmcroft, Uplyme, Devon; born 7 April, 1863;
married 11 Sept 1894, Edith Frances ...
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2ND LIEUT. EDWARD CHANDOS ELLIOT CHAMBERS (Lancashire Fusiliers),
born in 1896, was killed on July 1.
Although not in the Eleven at Marlborough, he was a
useful cricketer and in 1913 was one of the Cock House team.
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CHAMBERS, R.E.E. The Pole Family and the Forty-Five
CHANDOS AND LAWTON FAMILIES
CHAMBERS Notes and Queries.1907;
Chambers (R. E. E.) on Sir John Chandos, iii. 25
Duke of Wellington's first school, iv. 107, 454
262. R. E. E. Chambers, Pill House, Bishop's
Taunton. Barnstaple.
A Zuni Indian", watercolor, 14 1/8" x 10",
signed, dated and inscribed lower right:
"ZUNI, NEW MEXICO/R.E.E. CHAMBERS/1891", 14" x 10".
1863-1945 OSTRICH FARM, NORWALK, CALIFORNIA
Initialed, dated and inscribed l/r: R.E.E.C. 1892. California.
Watercolor on paper, laid down on board 10 x 14 inches (25.4 x 35.6 mm).
1863-1945 CAMP IN THE SIERRA MADRES, CALIFORNIA
Initialled, dated and inscribed l/r: R.E.E.C. 1889 California
Watercolor on paper, laid down on board 10 x 14 inches (25.4 x 35.6 mm).
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GELL papers at Matlock DRO |
Gell of Hopton Hall
Date 1200-1905
May 2001
Description The Gell of Hopton papers reflect the part the family played
in local society with members serving as MPs, High Sheriffs, JPs and
parish officers as well as promoting local railway and canal initiatives
at a national level.
The records include much material dealing with matters leading up to the
Civil War as well as the prominent role played by Sir John Gell I and
his brother Thomas for the Parliamentary side during the Civil War and
Commonwealth. The records include papers relating to Sir John's
involvement with the Derby Committee 1644-1645 and his later trial
for high treason
The letters of Sir William Gell (1777-1836) to members of his family
reflect his interests in history especially Pompeii, near Naples (Italy),
diplomacy, gardening and his life in Italy where he spent most of his
life after leaving England in 1814 as part of the entourage of
Caroline, estranged wife of the Prince of Wales (later George IV)
There are papers, photographs etc. reflecting the military career of
Brigadier-General Harry Chandos-Pole-Gell, particularly during the
Boer War and World War I
The records also show the development of the estate by acquisition of
properties by purchase or marriage, in some cases including deeds back
to the 13th century. There are manorial records for Hopton and Carsington,
Wirksworth, Hognaston, Hope, Hulland and Middleton by Wirksworth. Lead
was an important factor in the family's wealth and there are many records
showing the family's careful protection of its interests
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D258/57/18/19 1894
August 1894
Suggested terms for Settlement on the marriage of
Miss Edith Frances Chandos Pole Gell with Richard Edward
Elliot Chambers Esq of two sums of £1,000 and
£4,000 under the marriage settlements of her
Father Henry Chandos Pole Gell Esq.
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The above two sums of £1,000 and £4,000 which are
subject to the appointment of Mr Chambers to be appointed
by him in favour of Miss Chandos Pole Gell. She with the
concurrence of her husband then to settle such funds
upon herself (without power of anticipation) for life
and afterwards upon the children of the Marriage
in such shares as she shall direct
failing any direction the funds on her death to devolve on
the children equally on attaining 21 or if daughters
sooner marrying.
On failure of children the funds to be subject to Miss
Chandos Pole Gell's power only to children as far as possible
failing such disposition to devolve (as in the case
of Mrs Waldo's and Mrs Blathwayt's settlements) to
her next of kin as if she had died without having
been married.
The settlement to give power to Miss Chandos Pole Gell to appoint
a life interest to her husband.
If the Husband provides a settlement on his part
it would be proper that a life interest should be
secured to him next after the wife's death.
Other usual provisions which include pwers of
advancement to children - also withdrawal of a proportion
of the trust fund & to settle it on a second marriage.
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D258/57/18/20 1894
Contents:
Suggested terms for marriage settlement of
Edith Frances Chandos Pole Gell with
Richard Edward Elliot Chambers, with letter.
Leek 18 August 1894
My dear Sir,
I beg to acknowledge your letter
of yesterday, and have corrected
my stupid mistake in the names in
the third codicil a copy of which I now
return to you for execution; the names
altered are underlined in pencil; the
codicil contains no other alteration.
Your Will and codicils are quite in
accordance with your intentions - so
much of the portion of each daughter as
you had power to dispose of, being made
to revert to your own estate in the event
of the failure of children of such daughter.
The £1,000 and £4,000 however to which
she was entitled under your marriage
settlements are as usual made by these
marriage settlements subject
ultimately to each of your daughters' power
to dispose of, on the deaths of herself and
husband and failure of issue.
I am
very truly yrs,
Challinor
H.Chandos Pole Gell Esq
I return the suggested terms for settlment.
It (the memo) can remain as altered by you, but it is
usual where the sum settled virtually belongs to
the Lady that failing children she should have
absolute power to dispose of the fund on her death,
subject to the husband's interest.
It was by your Will & Codicils of 1867,
1869, (1871) & 1878 that you gave £10,000
(including the £1,000 & £4,000) to each
of your daughters; you afterwards, in
1879, secured £5,000 beyond the £1,000 &
£4,000 to Mrs Waldo & Mrs Blathwayt
by their marriage settlements. I regret
that I did not remember the provisions
in your Will, and suggest to you as
I should have done the necessary alteration.
H
I can explain more fully in an
interview - as intended by you -
I meant to suggest in my prior
letter that the present is probably a
good opportunity & to Miss Chandos
Pole Gell's interest perhaps that Mr
Chambers' pecuniary position, and that
of his children should be as explained? -
this however is merely a suggestion, and
you will be able to judge as to its
desirabilty or not.
H
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