Howard Evans writes (11 Dec 2008):
Dear John,
I thank you for this wonderful storeroom of memories from the past.
I lived on the Green Middleton from 1933 until 1950. As a youngster I
remember well sitting on the Basin chatting with the old men. I can
recall some of the details of the stone plaque mounted on the wall
behind the basin. The plaque referred to the Enclosures Act, it was
dated but I can't remember that. Just below the plaque was a sqare
wooden door and I always wondered what was behind that door!
I remember well the slaughterhouse and hanging onto the rope that was
passed through a hole in the wall to tether whatever animal was being
slaughterd. As kids we would hang around and help with the hope of
getting an animals bladder as a plaything. I grew up in Middleton during
the war years, and as kids we had to make our own games and amusements.
Toys and sweets etc were very scarce, so we had to improvise and make
what we needed like bows and arrows etc.
Although we did not have the material things of today, we were never bored.
I remember the games we played on the Green, all were happy days and
filled with things to do. We had the seasonal trips collecting hazel nuts
and blackberries, and we would pick bunches of primroses and lilies of the
valley hoping to sell the for a copper or two.
Finally John, with regard to my EVANS family tree, my earliest record is
as follows Hannah? No surname unmarried, had a son Henry 1748-1807 at
Middleton. Is there any way I could find a surname for Hannah ?
[Hello Howard,
Checking on the IGI I found the following:
Hannah EVANS 1717-1768 of Bonsall was unmarried when she gave birth to
Henry EVANS 1748-1807. Hannah may have married Anthony CARR 1711-1799
of Alfreton, but no marriage found. Hannah's parents were probably
Edmund EVANS and Rebecca GELL, but no marriage found. For later
decendants, see Evans pedigree, sent by
Stuart Flint. (Webmaster)]
With best regards,
Howard Evans
Margaret Howard writes:
Hello John,
Your question concerning the geology of Middleton having a "perched" water
table is answered by referring to a sketch map of the National Stone Centre
and Gulf area, near Wirksworth on page 87 of "Rocks and Scenery of the Peak
District" by Dr. Trevor D. Ford published by Landmark Publishing in 2002.
Because of a very important fault called "The Gulph" which runs
approximately north west up through Middleton to approximately The Green
(in fact the main road through the village lies on the approximate line of
this fault), rocks lying to the west of the fault are of Carboniferous
limestone (in which the largest underground limestone mine in Britain was
worked until recently i.e. Middleton mine), and rocks lying to the east
of the fault are Edale shales. Shales are impervious (i.e. do not let water
penetrate), a comparison can be made to the "navigators" of old who
constructed the canals and lined the bed of the canal with an impervious
layer of puddled clay to hold the water)! so they have supported the
"perched" water table at Middleton, whereas (from memory) I think it is
volcanic rocks that support the "perched" water table at Taddington, but
I can't remember what the rocks are at Tideswell.
Trust this solves the problem for you, will be contacting you offline over
the weekend with more details.
Best Wishes,
Margaret Howard.
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Stuart Flint writes:
--------25may2007-----------------------
Hello John
Another piece of info what you may consider trivial re Edith Taylor's
family connections
On number 32 Uncle John Fox's field (John Samuel Fox) which is on Chapel
Lane just below the Congs chapel and where in the 1930s Mr Sidney Birley
a Stone Mason at Hopton Wood Stone Grandson of John Richard Birley built
a Bungalow recently demolished to make way for a new house ..and where
other Bungalows were built 1960s - The following is John Fox's pedigree
John Samuel Fox was born at Starkholmes on the Willersley Lane side of
the village nearest Cromford to Timothy and Anne Fox nee Willans Killer
(Anne daughter of my 3XUncle William Killer the founder of Killer's Quarry,
her brothers Adam Joseph John and William known as Killer Bros Hopton
Wood Stone Co.) Timothy was cousin to my wife's Gr Gr Grandfather George
Fox Building Contractor / Monumental Mason (George married Emma Blackham
1st wife she my wife's Gr Gr Grandmother 2nd wife Mary Anne Barker
widow nee Jepson widow of Amos Barker Blacksmith of Ilkeston he having
been a Blacksmith at High Peak Junction Workshops Cromford & HPR. Mary Anne's father Peter Jepson being Manager on the Cromford & HPR)
When Timothy Fox died in 1868 aged 33 years Anne Willans Fox nee Killer
married William Batterley who was Uncle to Mr Alec Spencer mentioned in
my previous e mails concerning Edith Taylors Memories..William Batterley
also of my sister in laws family via Farnsworth's
John Samuel Fox married Alice Slack daughter of William Thomas Needham
Slack my wife's Gr Gr Gr Uncle brother to my wife's Gr Gr Grandmother
Mary Slack who married Joseph Evans W.T.N.Slack was a Methodist Local
Preacher and Quarry Manager at Manystones Quarry Longcliffe near
Brassington owned by my allied kinsman Thomas Brittain (married Mary
Colledge of my kin) John Samuel Fox's sister Anne Elizabeth Fox
married Joseph Boden son of Edward Boden Quarryman.. Bodens also of
my sister in laws family see Batterley / Farnsworth family Peds. John Palmer's Web Pages
Anne Willans Fox nee Killer was as I say daughter of William Killer whose
sister Mary married Samuel Flint they my Gr Gr Grandparents .. William
Killer founded Killer's Quarry 1849 / 50 he then a Joiner in the family
firm of Killer Bros Middleton and North End Wirksworth. It was whilst
preparing the footings for the foundations of a new workshop just above
where he lived off main Street Middleton (Killer's Yard) that he struck
a seam of pure Hopton Wood Stone which he instantly recognised for what
it was.. The Hopton Wood Stone Company on Middleton Moor where having
problems getting to the stone on their site and William being an astute
businessman made a deal to supply block stone to the company.. Within a
few years when his sons took over the business they became an independent
company continuing to call their stone Hopton Wood..By the early 1900s
Killer Bros were taken to court by the original quarry of that name ..but
Joseph Killer the last remaining brother had written evidence of the deal
made between the original Hopton Wood firm and Killer's which proved that
Killer's stone was traded as Hopton Wood Stone and thus had the legal
right to call their product by that name I have seen the original
transcript of the Court Case..
William Killer on the demise of his 1st wife Mary Willans she born at
Brinksway near Stockport, where Anne Willans Killer their daughter was
born re married Anna Brownson daughter of John and Elizabeth Brownson
nee Walker Elizabeth my Gr Gr Aunt sister to my Grt Grandfather Joseph
Walker the founder of Joseph Walker & Sons Master Stonemason's / Building
Contractors Joseph born 1815 married 3 times his 3rd wife Martha Sheldon
my true Grt Grandmother ... Anna's sister Elizabeth married into the
Eaton family of Cromford Eaton's of my brother's wife, the Farnsworth
family who were also Building Contractors / Master Stonemasons ..some of
the Eaton family Boatsmen on Cromford Canal )
Re the Jones family who at one time used the Slaughterhouse on Middleton
Green Jones Killer's Slack Flint Spencer Doxey Greenhough and Fearn
all intermarried
Peter Jones married my 3XAunt Mary Flint sister to Samuel who married
Mary Killer my Gr Gr Grandparents ..Peter and Mary's son William Jones
married three times to members of the same Spencer family ..Via these
marriages came Ellen Jones who married Alfred Axe whose brother William
married Mary Rose Killer living in a house at the foot of Chapel Lane
Middleton where in the 1880s my Grandmother Gwenillian Flint came from
Blaenafon South Wales as a Governess to a family of wealth from Monmouth
who stayed in the summer months at Ashleigh House ... In more recent
years in my youth the house was owned by my sister in laws allied family
of Millward.. Alfred and William's brother Samuel Axe who married Roseanne
Slack my wife's 3XAunt...lived at South View Chapel Lane Middleton where
in the 1940s my family and I lived Dad altering the name to Axeholme
after which Frank Holmes Butler my wife's Grt Uncle 1/2 brother to her
Grandfather Herbert Evans lived with his wife Sally nee Slack Sally
also my wife's Grt Aunt by Slacks their daughters living there up to
recent times...Samuel and Roseanne Axe's Grandaughter married into the
Badnall family who back in the 1820s - were Solicitors with Challinors of
Leek whose clients were members of the Killer family at Middleton
Slack /Doxey's of Middleton and Flint's of Leek and Hartington ...
Samuel and Roseanne's Grandaughter and husband are my fellow Family
History Researchers today ..Mr Bednall ( the name was changed the e
replacing the a) has a huge library of family papers / documents from
which he has sent me original legal documents concerning my distant
Flint family of Leek and Hartington whose line ceased in 1906 with
Elizabeth Flint spinster
Members of the Jones / Killer / Greenhough / Flint / Simpson / Colledge
family live close by my home today.. We have researched our joint kinship
together
If this is of little interest please feel free to dump it in your waste bin
Regards Stuart G Flint
--------24may2007 2122 hrs-------------
John
The shed next to The Jubilee Chapel photograph no 1 photo 519 was at
one time a Slaughterhouse owned by Killer / Doxey's Butchers at Middleton
(related to the Axe / Slack family I have seen the conveyance document
when Doxey's /Killers transfered ownership of the slaughterhouse and
Sweedley Cottage to Slacks the Solicitors being Challinor & Badnall of
Leek who were Solicitors to my Killer Quarrying family and my distant
Flint family of Leek ..The Badnall's today related to my Axe / Slack
family.
By the late 1950s Alec Spencer leased it as a Paint Shop (He was a Painter
& Decorator previously a Hanger On Cromford & HPR Middleton Top) I worked
for him as an apprentice alongside his two sons but by age 16 years I
had to enter Bretby Hospital for major surgery to my legs spending over
11 months in the T.B.Wards which put paid to my apprenticeship.. Douglas
Slack's daughter and my friend today lived at Sweedley Cottage The Green
next to the slaughterhouse as did Douglas's kinswoman Monica Marshall
nee Batterley her father John Samuel Battlerly who married into Slacks
his kin also Alec Spencer via Batterley's being among the 1930s Middleton
bandsmen who won Silver Prize he playing Euphonium..
Douglas Slacks daughter and I were inducted as Deacons at Middleton
Congregational Church at the same service to replace our fathers in the
1960s I becoming Sunday School Superintendent there in the late 1960s ..
The Lanes ( Duke Street) leading off The Green past The Jubilee Chapel
was where my Sheldon Grand forebares lived owning much of the land where
they built cottages To this day a group of cottages on Duke Street is
called Shedlon's Yard where in the early 1900s my wife's Grandfather
Herbert Evans was born ..Herbert took in Eric Sheldon of my Sheldon kin
whose parents died young.. whilst Alec Joe Sam and Walter Spencer were
all born into Sheldon houses my Gr Gr Uncle Samuel Joseph Sheldon
charging William Samuel Spencer 1/- rent which never altered all the
while they lived at one of the cottages along with another he left
my mother and her sisters. W.S.spencer lived next door to his Batterley
family . S.J.Sheldon who married Jane Longden of Ible died in his 80s
1930s .he a Deputy Barmaster Quarry Director and owning Lead Mines ..
Jane Longden's sister Mary married Joseph Hall a manager to his brother
Ebenezer Hall who became Managing Director of Martin, Hall & Co
Silversmiths Shrewsbury Works Broad Street Sheffield living at Abbeydale
Hall Dore.
In previous times The Lanes were called Paddengate.. By the early 1900s
the road was called Duke Street as The Duke of Wellington Inn was built
in the late 1800s where the Landlords were of my wife's and my kin ie
Holmes Butler Sheldon ...
In the 1950s early 60s The Basin Middleton Green was filled in with
concrete which made a natural staging..It was from here that Open Air
Services were held at a time in the late 1950s when the churches were
closely linked especially in the time of Rev Father Richard Nicholls
he cousin to Jimmy Edwards the Comedian Father Nicholls lived at
The Vicarage Middleton..He wore long habits as a monk would wear..
He was a good friend of my father up to Dad's demise and when I was
in Bretby Hospital for long months he walked from Middleton to Bretby
hitching lifts to visit me.. He never ever let me down Sometimes he
would gain a lift with Pastor Frank Brown he Lay Pastor at Middleton
Congregational Church a Director of Browns Foundry Derby Frank a
previous Flt Lt in The Fleet Air Arm ..Frank trained me to replace him
as Sunday School Superintendent and with my friend the daughter of
Douglas Slack led the induction service when we became Deacons at the
Congs.. Frank emigrated to Rhodesia when Ian Smith was Premier..Frank
a Liberal as was my father and I .then moved to South Africa and
played his part in opposing Apertheid by peaceful means
Frank Brown and Father Nicholls along with Rev Arthur Roebuck Circuit
Methodist Minister held united open air services using the Basin as a
stage..I remember The Green being packed with people at these services ..
Frank Brown died of Cancer in his mid 40s living in Canada.. He will
remain in my memory as a man who believed in putting his all into
whatever he did .regardless of what it may cost in effort or time..His
home Brassington Hall (previously living at Priors Croft Wigwell and
Yokecliffe House Wirksworth) was open house to all the children of
Middleton Congs For a man who grew up from within a privilaged social
background he was a most humble of men.
My Aunt Laura Doxey nee Flint she my GodMother lived at a large house
bordering Middleton Green On the 3rd photgraph showing the foot of
Water lane some railings can be just seen along the dull part of the wall
adjoining the white Wall next to The Basin Above these railing was
where Aunt Laura lived with husband George Doxey he having survived the
1st W.W. being mentioned in despatches along with son Sidney Doxey and
daughter Gwenillian known as Gwen ..Gwen and I were great friends up to
her premature demise in her 40s
Photo 3 again the house on the left foot of Water Lane Just below is a
building which in my youth Mr Benny Gretton (his wife a Slack ) had a
Fish and Chip Shop He served the best chips ever..Rather than in bags
the customer would take a bowl and have it filled or served in Grease
Proof Paper using a page of newspaper to hold the fish/chips in..this
was just after W.W.2 when basic needs were in short supply..Mr Gretton
replaced my father Harry S Flint as Middleton Ward Councillor on Wirksworth
Urban District Council Dad having served from 1928 - 1948 when diagnosed
with skin cancer he resigned Benny Gretton sang in Mount Zion Methodist
Church Choir being related to Spencers via Slacks ..He was a man of
music and made instrruments..My brother had meningitis as a child and
lost the use of his hearing Mr Gretton made a Violin with a sound box
which when my brother held it to his throat he could sense the change
in vibration and thus sound.. Mid week Mr Gretton would hold music
sessions at his home for all the youngsters who were interested..The
band would play tin whistles mouth organs recorders and combs with
grease proof paper which when the player blew made a reasonable sound ..
He was a master at playing the saw and his home made violins (made out
of orange boxes) By 1953 William Hubert Doxey J.P. M.B.E. took the seat
until removing to Wirksworth when he was elected for a Town seat which he
held up to his near 80s in recent years W.H.Doxey (one time Bandsman
Middleton Silver Prize Band) and I have been choristers in choirs and
friends for many years ...
Regards Stuart G Flint
--------24may2007 1913 hrs--------
Hello John
The first photograph shows the basin on Middleton Green..This was taken
before 1905 as where the smaller of the two cottages middle of photo it
was where my Grandfather John Walker and his nephews / brother's
( Joseph Walker & Sons) built Mount Zion Methodist Church which was
dedicated on January 20th 1906. The church to the right of the first
picture was the Old Jubilee Chapel replaced by Mount Zion ..I have a
photograph of Jubilee church when it was still holding services with
the members stood outside complete with a small orchestra who played for
the services..My Grandparents John and Annie Walker nee Cauldwell were
founding Trustees of Mount Zion Methodist Church along with my wife's
kinfolk of Butler and Fearn ..Grandmother Walker was the first Sunday
School Superintendent there after whom came Mr Alec Spencer who she
trained when he was a scholar at Zion..Mr Alec Spencer became Choir
Master at Mount Zion Methodist Church..I sang in his choirs along with
my brother and sister (my sister also the organist at Zion) Mr Spencer
was my singing teacher My mother and her sister Doris nee Walker
were Trustees at the church up to recent years before their demise..
Mr Alec Spencer's brothers were each Choir Master's.. Joseph Samuel
Spencer at Main Street Weslyan Methodist Church where Mrs Edith Taylor
nee Slack attended she as my wife of the Slack family as was Mr Alec
Spencer's wife Mr Walter Spencer was Choir Master at Holy Trinity
C of E Church Middleton ..he Uncle to my sister in law Jennifer Flint
nee Farnsworth whilst Alec Joe Sam and Walter's father William Samuel
Spencer was Choir Master at Middleton Congregational Church.
William Samuel Spencer was founder of Middleton Victoria Brass Band
formed out of a previous Fife and Drum Band to celebrate Queen Victoria's
Jubilee..By the 1930s W.S.Spencer took the band to Belle Vue Manchester
to contest in The National Brass Band Championships winning Silver
Prize after which the band became known as Middleton Silver Prize Band..
Thereafter, up to the outbreak of W.W.2 the band played at every home
match of Derby County F.C. at The Baseball Ground Derby.. The original
Prize winners were drawn in the main from the same allied families
including my wife and my own of Killer, Jones, Mather, Statham, Evans,
Pearson, Houghton, Spencer (3 brothers + father Musical Director)
Slack etc..
Alec Spencer's son today has recently taken up the baton of B.M.W. Brass
Training Band (Brassington Middleton and Wirksworth Bands amalgamated
in the 1960s ) to ensure that the present band continues to flourish ..
Alec's son and myself co-founded The Dalesmen Male Voice Choir at
Mount Zion Methodist Church he the first Musical Director .
Mount Zion was sold in recent years to a private owner who is changing
the church into a residential property
The cottage twixt where Zion Church was built and The Jubilee Sweedley
Cottage was owned by the Slack family of my / my wife's allied kin
Douglas Slack who married Mary Stone of Street Lane Denby lived here
the cottage previously owned by Killer's of Douglas Slack / my kin..
Douglas and my father were fellow Deacons at Middleton Congregational
Church
Douglas who was a Stone Sawyer at Wheatcrofts Hopton Wood Saw Mills
Buckland Hollow nr Ambergate lost his fingers in an accident on the
saws and there after being a great friend of my father managed Dads
Drapery Shop at Market Place Wirksworth ..In time he purchased the
business but unfortunately died in his 40s.. The shop was taken over
by Herbert Leonard Doxey his Uncle who placed his daughter Mary
Livingstone and her husband Samuel as managers H.L.Doxey being the
Newsagent at Wirksworth Market Place H.L.Doxey's wife Ada nee Botham
was cousin to my Uncle Arthur Botham who married Dads sister Amelia
Leah Flint
The Basin 2nd picture was where the main supply of water was obtained
up to 1938 when my father Harry Sprake Flint as Chairman of The Water
Authority oversaw the establishment of treated water taken from Slaley
Moor ( the land owned by George Henry Key whose family today own Viaton
Industries Hopton once owned when known as Hopton Mining Co.
(Upper / Nether Golgonda Mines) by my Gr Gr Uncle Samuel Joseph Sheldon)
The water was pumped up Via Gellia Wood into storage reservoirs on
Middleton Moor where it was treated..In my youth Mr Samuel Pearson
(Drummer Middleton Silver Prize Band) was Middleton Lengthsman who
cared for the local highways , Grave Digger and was responsible for
treating the water ..Sam Pearson often took me with him he with his
large wooden council barrow. Samuel Pearson was a fellow Trustee of
Mrs Edith Taylor at Main Street Weslyan Methodist Church .
Mr Harrison was Water Bailiff before the treated water supply was
established He was lame as Mrs Taylor rightly stated this caused by
falling out of an upper floor barn door opening in his youth breaking
the leg which never healed properly..His Grandaughter married my fellow
chorister and friend ..... Spencer Alec Spencer's son aforementioned
they friends of mine who were neighbours of my mother and cared for her
so well up to her demise with cancer
Footnote Up to recent years the stone tablet
which originally had pride of place over the basin was stored in the
Grave Diggers Hut Middleton Cemetery ..I remember seeing it
The 3rd photograph shows The Green adjoining Water Lane in the distance
I have many photographs of this area showing Middleton Silver Prize Band
marching from the Green down Main Street also large gatherings of people
probably taking part in some form of Gala Day as flags and bunting are to
be seen
As children my mates and I played on The Green or in The Old Quarry on
Middleton Moor Water Lane leading onto The Moor..
I was born into a house just below The Green known to this day as Berleigh
it being owned by the Birley family of my wife's kin (via Slacks) and my
distant kin via Flint ..The Birley family owned a Quarry on Middleton Moor
above Killer Bros Hopton Wood Stone Quarry..
Birley's were Monumental Masons having workshops at Buckland Hollow and
at Heage..They had a narrow guage stone carrying tramway from their
quarry on Middleton Moor which co joined a smaller tramway with my
Sheldon family quarry at Bradley Quarry at Middleton Top (Bradley Quarry
opposite the present cycle hire depot ) The stone then taken down to
Cromford and transfered onto the canal to Ambergate
John Richard Birley of this family was a Deacon at Middleton Congregational
Church, his son John Brookes Birley being a friend and fellow Deacon of my
father and Douglas Slack..
The fourth photograph shows Mount Zion Church built in 1905 as I have
previously stated .. The walled area foot of photo adjoined The Nelson
Arms Public House It was opposite here that my family lived at Berleigh
House 1940s - early 50s removing to South View Chapel Lane Middleton
which my father renamed Axeholme it being owned by my wife and my allied
kin of Axe and Slack afterwards owned by Frank Holmes Butler my wife's
Grt Uncle The roof of the building seen to the right of the photograph
with two chimney stacks was Southams Grocery Shop ..Mr Southam married
into the Slack family aforementioned he my father's competitor in the
grocery trade at Middleton, as was the Co Operative Store managed by
Mr Fred Spencer then Mr Dennis Kneebone and yet between them there was
a friendship ..When the Co-op shut down Mr Kneebone and I were fellow
workers at Bryan Donkins Lumsdale Mill Tansley Matlock ..The 1st street
tap at Rise End as mentioned in Edith Taylors Memories was where Dennis
Kneebone lived He and his wife bred Spaniels which were called Kneedene
Cocker Spaniels ..Dennis was born at a cottage at Middleton next to my
father's Grocery Shop Central Stores once owned by the Gregson family ..
By the 1950s Dad converted the house Dennis had lived into a Drapery Shop..
Mr and Mrs Taylor were the first family to own a television at Middleton
in the late 1940s a Bakelite Ecko T.V. with a moveable plastic magnifying
screen which adjusted the focus ..Every Friday night Mrs Taylors small
front room was packed to the gills with youngsters yours truly among
them to watch The Cisco Kid and The Lone Ranger or P.C.49 or Roy Rogers ..
By the 1950s Uncle Bill Flint purchased a T.V., and every Saturday night
I visited Uncle Bill to watch Quatermass ..the signature tune being from
Holst Planet Suite which haunted me for years...By the late 1950s the
Millwards who lived across the road from my family of my sister in laws
family owned one their son and I school mates .. It took my father many
years to buy one as he thought it would distract his children from their
schooling ...(never being an acedemic as my brother and sister were, I
think Dad realised I was a lost cause in as much as scholastic attainment
was concerned..and so I was allowed more leaway than my sibling kin )
I have other information but leave it with you to decide what you wish to
use or if you require more detail
Regards Stuart G Flint