On Monday 12th July Doug Porter mentioned a Breedon reprint of
"Glover's Derby", available for about 15UKP. It should be made clear
that this is a "History and Directory of the BOROUGH of Derby", by
Stephen Glover, published in 1843, relating to just the town itself.
It contains a useful Directory of names of people in Derby at this
This should not be confused with a larger, more ambitious work, very
valuable to Genealogists, called "The History of the COUNTY of Derby",
published 1829-33. This was conceived as a major publishing work -
Part I, Vol I covered general history of the County; Part I Vol II
began a systematic coverage of the county, parish by parish, dealing
with general information, history and FAMILIES of each locality in
turn, and included numerous drop-line pedigree charts.
This volume covered alphabetically from ABNEY to DERBY only, and there
the project foundered. No further volume was ever published and the
Index was never printed. If you have families living in places
beginning with the early letters of the alphabet, you are in luck with
this book, otherwise you must look elsewhere. Some of Glover's
further notes and pedigrees still exist in manuscript form in the
Derby Local Studies Library and could be worth consulting.
Unfortunately for us, this county edition of Glover has never been
reprinted, to my knowledge. As Doug said, it is still occasionally
available on the secondhand market, but costs something in the region
of 150 UKP plus, for the two volumes.
I have indexed 111 different pedigrees in the 1829 edition of Glover,
INDEX OF PEDIGREES IN STEPHEN GLOVER'S
HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF DERBY, 1829
(drop-line pedigrees, unless otherwise stated)
ALSOP, of Alsop-in-the-Dale & Burton - p.20.
APPLEBY, of Great Appleby, 1181-1630 (text) p.24.
BAGSHAW, of Banner Cross, Chapel-en-le-Frith - p.213.
BAINBRIGGE, of Lockington, Leics; Derby; & Rocester & Woodseat, Staffs - p.550.
BASSANO, of London & Essex; Stone & Lichfield, Staffs; Derby & Birmingham - p.575.
BEAUMONT, of Gracedieu & Barrow - p.88.
BENTINCK, of Bolsover (with CAVENDISH, HOLLES & HARLEY) - p.123.
BERESFORD, of Bentley, Newton Grange, Ashbourne, &c - p.44.
BERESFORD, of Bentley, &c (text) - p.107.
BINGHAM, John of Derby & descendants (text) - p.596.
BOOTHBY, of Ashbourne - p.41.
BOROUGH, of Derby & Chetwynd Park, Salop - p.555.
BOURNE, of Ashover - p.56.
BOWDEN, of Southgate House, Clown; & Beighton Fields, Barlborough - p304.
BOWER, of Darley Hall (with POTTER) - p.358.
BRADSHAW, of Barton Blount - p.90.
BRADSHAW, of Bradshaw (text & chart) - p.218.
BROOKHOUSE, of Derby (brief text) - p.598.
BROWNE, of Hungry Bentley & Chesterfield - p.295.
BUCKSTON, of Bradbourne, &c - p.134.
BURTON, of Chesterfield, Dronfield, &c - p.288.
CALTON, of Chesterfield (brief text) - p.292.
CAVENDISH, of Bolsover (with HOLLES, HARLEY, BENTINCK) - p.123.
CAVENDISH, of Chatsworth (text) - p.243.
CHADWICK, of Callow, Derbs; & Malveysin Ridware, Staffs - p.189.
CHATTERTON, of Derby (text) - p.601.
CHESTERFIELD (Earl of), STANHOPE of Bretby (chart & text) - pp.163/4.
COCKAINE (or COCKAYNE), of Ashbourne - p.32.
COX, of Brailsford, Culland, Derby & Spondon - p.140.
CREWE, (formerly HARPUR), of Calke Abbey - p.184.
CROMPTON, of Derby - p.578.
CURZON, of Croxall - p.333.
CURZON, of Derby, & Breedon, Leics (from Kedleston) - p.566.
DAKEYNE, of Darley-in-the-Dale - p.361.
DALE, of Ashbourne, &c - p.46.
DARWIN, of Cleatham, Lincs; Elston, Notts; Breadsall Priory, Derbs - p.154.
DERBY, (Earl of), FERRERS (text) - p.522.
Royal House of PLANTAGENET (text & chart) - p.524.
DREWRY, of Derby (text) - p.601.
EDWARDS, of Derby - p.570.
EVANS, of Allestrey, Darley, Mathfield, &c - p.18.
FERRERS, Earls of Derby (text) - p.522.
FOLJAMBE, of Darley-in-the-Dale (with PLUMPTON, SOTEHILL & ROCLIFFE) - p.359.
FORESTER, of Derby (wth PULTER & FRENCH) - p.588.
FOWNE, (or FAWNE) beginning of Blore's pedigree - p.7.
FOX, of Derby - p.581.
FOX, Francis, of Derby (text) - p.593.
FRENCH, of Derby (with PULTER & FORESTER) - p.588.
GISBORNE, of Derby, Yoxall, Chapel-en-le-Frith, & Darley-in-the-Dale - p.216.
GISBORNE, of Darley-in-the-Dale (2 generations only, c.1800) - p.359.
GREY, of Codnor (with ZOUCH) - p.308.
HADEN, Alderman & Dr, of Derby (early 19th cent, text) - p.601.
HARLEY, of Bolsover (with CAVENDISH, HOLLES & BENTINCK) - p.123.
HARPUR, (now CREWE) of Calke Abbey - p.184.
HEATHCOTE, of Chesterfield (text) - p.293.
HEATHCOTE, of Stancliffe Hall, Darley Dale (4 generations) - p.360.
HOBBES, Thomas, 1588-1679, of Chatsworth (text) - p.240.
HOLDEN, of Aston - p.60.
HOLDEN, of Darley Abbey, Derbs; & Nuttall Temple, Notts - p.351.
HOLLES, of Bolsover (with CAVENDISH, HARLEY & BENTINCK) - p.123.
HOPE, of Derby - p.563.
HORNE, of Butterley, 18th cent (text) - p.169.
HORTON, of Catton, with WILMOT-HORTON (text) - p.204.
HURT, of Ashbourne, Alderwasley, Wirksworth, &c - p.7.
LEAPER, of Derby (3 generations, 18th cent) - p.592.
LE HUNTE, of Derby (3 page pedigree) - p.567.
LOCKETT, of Derby - p.585.
LOWE, of Denby - p.367.
LOWE, of Derby, early 19th cent (text) - p.599.
LOWE, part of early FOWNE pedigree, 17th cent - p.7.
LUCAS, of Chesterfield - p.289.
MANVERS, Earl of, Lord of Beighton, Callow, &c, family of PIERREPONT (text) - p.100.
MASTER, of Codnor - p.313.
MAYNARD, of Chesterfield - p.291.
MELLOR, of Ideridgehay & Derby - p.560.
MEYNELL, of Bradley (text) - p.136.
MILNES, of Ashover - p.56/7.
MILNES, of Chesterfield, Tapton & Brimingham - p.286.
MONTGOMERY, of Cubley, 14th-16th cent (text) - p.335.
MOORE, Lords of Appleby Parva - p.27.
MOREWOOD, of the Oaks in Bradfield & Alfreton - p.14.
OKEOVER, of Atlow, Okeover, Oldbury, &c - p.62.
PEGGE, of Beauchief (with STRELLEY) - p.95.
PIERREPONT, Earl Manvers, Lords of Beighton, &c (text) - p.100.
PLANTAGENET, Royal House, Earls of Derby, brief pedigree, 14th cent - p.524
PLUMPTON, of Darley-in-the-Dale (with FOLJAMBE, SOTEHILL & ROCLIFFE) - p.359.
POLE, of Wakebridge, Crick (with WAKEBRIGGE) - p.323.
POTTER, of Darley Hall (with BOWER) - p.358.
PULTER, of Derby (with FRENCH & FORESTER) - p.588.
ROCLIFFE, of Darley-in-the-Dale (with FOLJAMBE, PLUMPTON & SOTEHILL) - p.359.
RODES, of Barlborough - p.81.
ROWLAND, Samuel, Alderman & Mayor of Derby, early 19th cent (brief text) - p.594.
SIMPSON, J.B. & family, of Derby, c.1800 (text) - p.593.
SIMPSON, Edward, Jeweller of Derby (text) - p.602.
SORESBY, of Chesterfield - p.292.
SOTEHILL, of Darley-in-the-Dale (with FOLJAMBE, PLUMPTON & ROCLIFFE) - p.359.
STANHOPE, of Bretby, Earl of Chesterfield (text & chart) - p.163/4.
STANLEY, Earl of Derby (text) - p.545.
STRELLEY, of Beauchief (with PEGGE) - p.95.
STRUTT, of Derby, Belper, &c - p.573.
UNWIN, Rev Edward & family, of Derby (brief text) - p.595.
WAKEBRIGGE, of Wakebridge, Crick (with POLE) - p.323.
WALLER, of Chesterfield - p.290.
WALTHALL, of Darley-in-the-Dale (from Westmorland, later generations only) - p.364.
WATKINSON, of Brampton, nr Chesterfield - p.145.
WHITBY, of Derby - p.586.
WHITEHURST, of Derby, Clockmakers (text) - p.599.
WILKINSON, of Hilcote Hall, Blackwell - p.110.
WILMOT, of Chaddesden (text & chart) - p.207/8.
WRIGHT, of Nottingham & Lenton - p.170.
WRIGHT, families in Derby (very brief text) - p.598.
ZOUCH, of Codnor (with GREY), to early 17th cent - p.308.
Apologies to anyone for whom the tabs do not work properly.
Sonia W Addis-Smith, nee Porter
Cross End House, Thurleigh, Bedford, England, MK44 2EE
Tel: +44 1234-771327 (from abroad); 01234-771327 (from UK)
02--[DBY] GRAVESTONE RUBBING
GRAVESTONE RUBBING DOS AND DON'TS
From "Gravestone Rubbing for Beginners," a leaflet available from the
Association for Gravestone Studies
Gravestone rubbing is fun. It is possible to collect some beautiful
artwork that can be framed and displayed. A carver's skill can be
preserved, or an ancestor's stone recorded and appreciated through this
craft. However, gravestone rubbing is also controversial. Especially in
cemeteries where a restoration project is in progress, rubbing is often
banned. This is to enable the restorers to have an opportunity to
preserve all the stones possible before more damage occurs. Even if a
restoration project is not in progress, if the those who care for the
cemetery have determined there are very fragile stones there which may
be damaged if pressure is applied to the surface as happens in rubbing,
there may be prohibitionsin place. So be sure to check. Below are some
Do's and Don'ts that will make your experience in the cemetery a good
*Check (with cemetery superintendent, cemetery commissioners, town
clerk, historical society, whoever is in charge) to see if rubbing is
allowed in the cemetry.
*Get permission and/or a permit as required.
*Rub only solid stones in good condition. Check for any cracks, evidence
of previous breaks and adhesive repairs, defoliating stone with air
pockets behind the face of the stone that will collapse under pressure
of rubbing, etc
*Become educated; learn how to rub responsibly.
*Use a soft brush and plain water to do any necessary stone cleaning.
*Make certain that your paper covers the entire face of the stone;
secure with masking tape.
*Use the correct combination of paper and waxes or inks; avoid magic
marker-type pens or other permanent color materials.
*Test paper and color before working on stone to be certain that no
color bleeds through.
*Rub gently, carefully.
*Leave the stone in better condition than you found it.
*Take all trash with you; replace any grave site materials that you may
*Don't attempt to rub deteriorating marble or sandstone, or any unsound
or weakened stone (for example, a stone that sounds hollow when gently
tapped or a stone that is flaking, splitting, blistered, cracked, or
unstable on its base).
*Don't use detergents, soaps, vinegar, bleach, or any other cleaning
solutions on the stone, no matter how mild!
*Don't use shaving cream, chalk, graphite, dirt, or other concoctions in
an attempt to read worn inscriptions. Using a large mirror to direct
bright sunlight diagonally across the face of a gravemarker casts
shadows in indentations and makes inscriptions more visible.
*Don't use stiff-bristled or wire brushes, putty knives, nail files, or
any metal object to clean or to remove lichen from the stone; Soft
natural bristled brushes, whisk brooms, or wooden sticks are usually OK
if used gently and carefully
*Don't attempt to remove stubborn lichen. Soft lichen may be thoroughly
soaked with plain water and then loosened with a gum eraser or a wooden
popsicle stick. Be gentle. Stop if lichen does not come off easily.
*Don't use spray adhesives, scotch tape, or duct tape. Use masking tape.
*Don't use any rubbing method that you have not actually practiced under
*Don't leave masking tape, wastepaper, colors, etc., at the grave site
The Association for Gravestone Studies was founded in 1977 for the
purpose of furthering the study and preservation of gravestones. AGS is
an international organization with an interest in gravemarkers of all
03--[DBY] Hearth Tax 1664-70 on line
I can relate that a house in the Derby street where I lived for
my first thirty-odd years had a bricked in downstairs window which
was always taken as being to avoid the window tax. It was a
normal Victorian terraced house and may still have that bricked
in window. (There were a few which were 'brick through' as well,
mainly near the pub...!) However, Window Tax was abolished in
1851 so I'm not sure the story hold up. It lasted since 1695 so
it had a good run.
There were numerous 'funny' taxes imposed, often for strange
purposes like royal weddings, to invade France, new battleships
or just to buy someone a new manor house. Many still exist - car
tax, VAT, tobacco and so on. Income tax was a temporary
expedient and if memory serves sometime in 1860 it was actually
announced that it would 'soon be abolished'. Happy days!
In Cyprus back in the early 80s I used to wonder very many houses
had the steel reinforcing rods still sticking up through the roof
and was told that if a house wasn't finished, no building tax was
applied, hence they were built this way and the owners could
always state they intended to finish the roof later. It may
still apply today. One Brit who retired there built his luxury
bungalow and had it finished off completely, then woke one
morning to find the Turks had invaded and the 'front line' ran
through his back garden!
Doug Porter, Derby, England.
04--[DBY] Naming patterns/Brick Walls
FAMILY TREE FINDERS
Tuesday - 24 August 1999
Finding a Clue in Naming Patterns
(Classic Edition, originally published 12 Jan 1999)
As genealogists, we always need to use every tool and trick
available to us to keep pushing further and further back.
In the past we have looked at the origins of some surnames.
However, given names can also hold a clue as well. And,
while not a given name, patronymics give you a little
information about the next generation back.
It is important to search for records that might include a
middle name. Marriage records and birth and death records
will often have the full name of a given ancestor, but might
not have the names of the parents, or the maiden name of a
mother. In many instances, I have found where a child's
middle name was the maiden surname of the mother. This was
especially true in the New England states of the United
When researching an English immigrant, who left England as
Edward NEWTH and arrived in Pennsylvania as George MORRIS,
it was with interest that I discovered he had given each of
his four sons the middle name of NEWTH. While my mother and
aunt were not given middle names, my uncle was named David
Bailey AYER. His middle name, Bailey, was the maiden
surname for my grandmother.
When I discovered myself researching Scottish lines, I
learned that they have a naming pattern for the children:
1st son - named for the father's father
2nd son - named for the mother's father
3rd son - named for the father himself
1st dau - named for the mother's mother
2nd dau - named for the father's mother
3rd dau - named for the mother herself
When locating the children in a familial unit, through
census for instance, you will have the order of the children
and then can begin to search for certain individuals with
your surnames and the given names you have just discovered.
While this may not always be the case, it is a valuable clue
for you to begin the search for others that may be connected
to the family.
As your research progresses you may discover other naming
patterns unique to a family line or ethnic region. Always
keep these in mind as you progress. Such patterns usually
were consistent for a number of generations and can be the
turning point for you on a brick wall.
For a few more tricks on getting past those brick walls we
all end up banging our heads against, check out some of
these web sites:
How To Get Past Genealogy Road Blocks -
First Name Basis -
Genealogy's Most Wanted - http://www.citynet.net/mostwanted/
Each of these sites offers a different approach to helping
you with your end of line ancestor, otherwise known as your
brick wall. One suggests various record types for various
types of information. Another looks at what to do when all
you have is a first name. And the Genealogy's Most Wanted
site brings you in contact with many others who have a
desperately sought ancestor. You never know what you will
Rhonda R. McClure
05--[DBY] Buying Derbyshire Books
Here are two sources for information about buying Derbyshire
1. Booksales of the Derbyshire Family History Society, URL:
2. Bookshop of the Society of Genealogists in London, URL:
1. DERBYSHIRE FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY Booksales:
They do not use credit cards, but sterling cheques only. However,
they have information about how people from USA and Canada can make
sterling payments using Ruesch International - see below.
Here is a copy of the top of their page:-
DERBYSHIRE FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY PUBLICATIONS LIST
Please send your orders for all publications to:
The Booksales Officer, Mrs L.I.Bull, DFHS, Bridge Chapel House, St
Mary's Bridge, Sowter Road, Derby, DE1 3AT, UK.
Please send payment with your order in Sterling currency, preferably
cheques, made payable to the Derbyshire Family History Society.
............... Please state whether you wish the goods to be sent by
surface or airmail ............. All prices on the list are quoted in
pounds sterling and include postage and packing.
NEWS FOR U.S.A. PURCHASERS - HOW TO SEND STERLING PAYMENTS
Purchasers in the U.S.A. and Canada can avail themselves of a service
provided by Ruesch International, at a cost of $3.00 (Three dollars)
per cheque (check) :-
- Telephone Ruesch International at 1-800-424-2923 or locally at
212-408-1200, quoting the Sterling sum you require and the name of the
payee. They will give you the conversion rate in dollars, adding the
$3.00 fee, and also give you a reference number.
- Send a personal check for the amount given to Ruesch International
Financial Services, 700 Eleventh Street N W, 4th Floor, Washington
D.C., 20001-4507, quoting the reference number allocated.
- Within a few days you will receive a RUESCH sterling check made
out to the payee which you can then post.
2. The SOCIETY OF GENEALOGISTS Bookshop Catalog:
To find Derbyshire information, follow this route:
>From the first page click on : "British Research".
>From the next page click on : "Counties of England"
>From the next page click on : "Derbyshire"
This will then give you three selections:
- Genealogical Guides
- Local History
They do use credit cards and there is the usual online buying system
of clicking on the "Add to Shopping Basket" button next to the item
which interests you. Full purchase information is given at the
beginning of the Bookshop site.
Two examples from the above section called "Genealogical Guides":
- The Index of Parish Registers
- Pigot's Directory for 1828/9
1. The Derbyshire section of the "NATIONAL INDEX OF PARISH
REGISTERS" (Volume 6, Part 5), by Cliff Webb, published by the
Society of Genealogists, in 1995.
- This lists all the churches of Derbyshire, with dates of
available registers and where they are kept, including nonconformist
registers. Also information about Registers on microfilm, both at
Derbyshire Record Office and with the Mormons at Salt Lake City (which
are available through local Mormon Family History Centres). It costs
UKP 8.20. As it is an SoG publication, SoG members may claim a 20%
2. "PIGOT and Co's National COMMERCIAL DIRECTORY for 1828-9,
comprising a Directory and Classification of the Merchants, Bankers,
Professional Gentlemen, Manufacturers and Traders".
- The volume which includes Derbyshire covers several surrounding
counties as well: Cheshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and
Shropshire. This gives useful information about places as well as
lists of names. Please note - not *all* people are listed, of
course, only a small selection, but it includes quite a few of those
on the Chesterfield 1829 Freeholders list, for example, with
information about their trades and trade addresses. This is a modern
facsimile edition (1995) and costs UKP 8.50, plus postage.
Another source for buying this PIGOT is through "Family Tree
Magazine", costing UKP 9.50 for UK, and for overseas - UKP 10.15
including overseas surface postage. Payment is by credit card. If
you want it by airmail they will quote the extra cost. This is quite
a good source for other Genealogical publications too.
The contact address is: 61 Great Whyte, Ramsey, Huntingdon,
Cambridgeshire, PE17 IHL. Tel: +44 - 1487 814050.
The Family Tree Magazine Booksales URL is:
With best wishes
06--[DBY] Florence Nightingale
Hi Aileen and others,
Information on Florence Nightingale from Encyclopaedia Brittanica
byname LADY OF THE LAMP (b. May 12, 1820, Florence--d. Aug. 13, 1910,
London), English nurse and the founder of trained nursing as a
profession for women.
In 1854-56, during the Crimean War, she was in charge of nursing in
the military hospitals at Scutari, in Turkey, where she coped with
conditions of crowding, inadequate sanitation, and shortage of basic
necessities. In 1860 she established in London the Nightingale School
for Nurses, the first such in the world.
The second daughter of William Edward Nightingale (originally Shore)
and Frances (Fanny) Smith, Florence was named after her birthplace,
where her well-to-do parents were temporarily resident. She grew up in
Derbyshire, Hampshire, and London, where her family maintained
comfortable homes. She was educated largely by her father, who taught
her Greek, Latin, French, German, Italian, history, philosophy, and
mathematics. Throughout her life she read widely in many languages.
Social life was generally unsatisfying for Nightingale. On Feb. 7,
1837, she believed that she had heard the voice of God informing her
that she had a mission, but it was not until nine years later that she
realized what that mission was. Meanwhile, she strove to escape to a
life of her own. Her proposal to study nursing at a hospital was
scotched. She was then persuaded to study parliamentary reports, and
in three years she was regarded by influential friends as an expert on
public health and hospitals.
In 1846 a friend sent Nightingale the Year Book of the Institution of
Protestant Deaconesses at Kaiserswerth, Ger., which trained country
girls of good character to nurse the sick. Four years later she
entered the institution and went through the full course of training
as a nurse. In 1853 she was appointed superintendent of the
Institution for the Care of Sick Gentlewomen, in London. The changes
that she made and her administration were very successful. But she
yearned for a wider field; by January 1854 she was referring to the
institution as "this little molehill."
The Crimean War broke out in March 1854, and the allied British and
French armies landed on the Crimea in September. Almost at once the
British conscience was dismayed by published graphic reports of the
disgraceful conditions suffered by sick and wounded British soldiers.
Women were urged to serve as nurses like the French Sisters of
Charity. Nightingale volunteered at once to leave in three days for
Constantinople, taking three nurses with her. Meanwhile, she was
officially approached by her old friend, the then secretary of state
at war, Sidney Herbert (later Lord Herbert of Lea), to take out a much
larger party of nurses. She was to have complete charge of the nursing
in the military hospitals in Turkey (i.e., at Scutari). The party left
England on Oct. 21, 1854, and entered the Barrack Hospital at Scutari
on November 5.
On her party's arrival she found that they had no decent facilities
whatever. Their quarters were infested with rats and fleas, and the
water allowance was one pint per head per day for all purposes. She
had to use the provisions brought with her. The doctors were hostile,
and at first the nurses were not allowed in the wards. After the
Battle of Inkerman (fought on the very day of her arrival) the
hospital was soon grossly overcrowded with sick and wounded.
Furniture, clothing, and bedding were deficient, and in the corridors
men lay on straw palliasses amidst filth caused by inadequate
sanitation. Nightingale was then asked to help, and one of her first
requisitions was for 200 scrubbing brushes. She next arranged for the
patients' filthy clothes to be washed outside the hospital.
All supplies had completely broken down, but Nightingale had authority
to purchase outside the hospital; she had brought 30,000 with her. By
the end of the year she was purveying the hospital. She was harassed
by the cares of administration, a vast correspondence, and the writing
of numerous official and private reports, as well as by the
insubordination of her nurses, some of whom had to be sent home
because of drunkenness or immorality. She spent many hours a day in
the wards, and there was scarcely a man whom she had not personally
attended. After 8:00 PM she would allow no woman in the wards except
herself. The night nursing--such as it was--was done by convalescent
orderlies. Each night, however, she made her rounds, giving comfort
and advice and establishing the wounded soldiers' conception of "The
Lady with the Lamp."
By May 1855 nursing the sick had become her secondary interest, and
her prime concern now was the welfare of the British Army. She now
transferred herself and some of her nurses to the Crimea, and on
landing at Balaklava she was very ill with Crimean fever. Then her
opponent, the inspector general of hospitals, contended that she had
authority only at Scutari and none in the Crimea. It was not until
March 16, 1856, that her position as general superintendent of the
Female Nursing Establishment of the Military Hospitals of the Army was
confirmed in general orders.
Shortly after the last patient left the Barrack Hospital, Nightingale
sailed for England, where she had long been a national hero. But she
refused official transport home and every kind of public reception.
Nightingale returned home determined to destroy her popular image and
to inaugurate official action to improve the health, living
conditions, and food of the British soldier. In the first she
succeeded extraordinarily well. In the second she encountered
difficulties, as the important men regarded her scheme tolerantly but
without enthusiasm. In October 1856, however, she had a long interview
with Queen Victoria, the Prince Consort, and Lord Panmure, Herbert's
successor. She later had a private interview with the Queen, and
Panmure promised a royal commission.
The Royal Commission on the Health of the Army was appointed in May
1857. Nightingale gave extensive evidence and compiled an immense
confidential report, covering the whole field of army medical and
hospital administration, which was later privately printed as her
Notes on Matters Affecting the Health, Efficiency and Hospital
Administration of the British Army (1858). One consequence of the
commission's activities was the foundation of the Army Medical School
in 1857. The Indian Mutiny in the same year turned Nightingale's
interest to the health of the army in India, and for that purpose
another royal commission was appointed in 1859. This resulted in 1868
in the establishment of a Sanitary Department in the India Office with
supreme authority in India.
Meanwhile, Nightingale had been engaged in other pioneering
activities. In 1860 she used the Nightingale Fund of 45,000,
subscribed by the public to commemorate her Crimean work, to establish
at St. Thomas's Hospital the Nightingale School for Nurses--the first
of its kind in the world. Within a few years she was largely
instrumental in inaugurating training for midwives and for nurses in
workhouse infirmaries, and she played a part in the reform of
workhouses. All these works were accomplished by a woman generally
supposed to have died. From 1857 Nightingale had lived, mainly in
London, as an invalid. Her correspondence was enormous. Lying on her
couch year after year, she received innumerable visitors, from the
highest to the humblest, and few came who did not give information or
receive it. Although she had never been to India, she was an
acknowledged master of most things Indian, and successive viceroys
consulted her before assuming their offices. She drove her influential
friends to obtain for her those things that she felt her cause needed.
When Sidney Herbert, a dying man, was forced to discontinue his active
cooperation in their work, she sent him a very cruel letter.
It has never been shown that Florence Nightingale had any organic
illness; her invalidism may have been partly neurotic and partly
intentional. By this apparent stratagem she was able to devote herself
night and day to the task at hand. Her sight gradually failed, until
in 1901 she became completely blind. In 1907 the king conferred on her
the Order of Merit--the first woman ever to receive it. Florence
Nightingale died in 1910. The offer of a national funeral and burial
in Westminster Abbey was, by her wish, declined.
Nightingale's life and influence are recounted in Edward Cook, The
Life of Florence Nightingale, 2 vol. (1913, reissued in 1 vol., 1942);
Cecil Woodham-Smith, Florence Nightingale, 1820-1910 (1950, reprinted
1983), a full and well-written modern biography; Zachary Cope,
Florence Nightingale and the Doctors (1958); Elspeth Huxley, Florence
Nightingale (1975), with many illustrations; and F.B. Smith, Florence
Nightingale: Reputation and Power (1982).
Related Internet Links:
Copyright 1994-1998 Encyclopaedia Britannica
07--[DBY] Round house accident
On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 11:51:04PM +1000, Nigel Savidge wrote:
> Some kind soul might even be able to put you in touch with one of the
> local railway historical societys who may also know about such
As the research co-ordinator for the Midland Railway Society
(web pages at http://irwell.mimas.ac.uk/~zzaascs/mrsoc/mrsoc.html)
I afraid to say that I can't add a great deal to the advice that
has already been sent by other members of the list.
If the accident happened in a roundhouse in Derby, then it
has to have happened in one if the Midland Railway's roundhouses
at the back of Derby station. The original round house is still
standing, though very little else of the works is still there.
There were eventually several roundhouses, but I can't tell you
the dates they were built.
I think that all fatal accidents were in investigated by what was
then the Board of Trade. The following documents are in the PRO,
RAIL 491/761 Board of Trade reports on accidents 1891 - 1912
RAIL 491/1058 Register of accidents to Company's servants and others
not in Company's service 1875 - 1888
RAIL 491/1059 Register of accidents to Company's servants and others
not in Company's service No.2 1888 - 1895
RAIL 491/1060 Register of accidents to Company's servants and others
not in Company's service No.3 1895 - 1901
RAIL 491/1061 Register of accidents to Company's servants and others
not in Company's service No.4 1901 - 1906
RAIL 491/1062 Register of accidents to Company's servants and others
not in Company's service No.6 1914 - 1921
RAIL 491 is the class of documents relating to the Midland
Railway. It would also be worth looking in the MT 6 class
(MT meaning Ministry of Transport). A search of the PRO
class lists for accidents and MT resulted in 331 hits, so
I wont list them all here. Go to http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/
for the searchable class lists. To view the documents you'll
have to go to the PRO at Kew. Some libraries keep the Board
of Trade accident reports -- I know Nottingham library has
a good collection, but I couldn't tell you who else keeps
08--[DBY] Directory look-ups
In the light of enquiries received so far, I think I should clarify
the nature of the Directories I have at my disposal.
NONE of them has a single alphabetical list of names for the whole
COUNTY. They are all based on PLACE names, with separate lists of
people for each town, or village, or group of villages.
For each town listed, name-lists take the form of a single
alphabetical list for the Gentry, then subdivide into Trade headings:
Accountants, Bakers, Basket Makers, Beer Sellers, Butchers, etc, etc.
Except for the TOWN of DERBY, which does have single alphabetical
lists of names, as well as Trade headings, in both Glover's 1843 and
It is impossible for me to look for a single name in every Derbyshire
place listed in such a large Directory as White's 1857, which has
nearly a thousand pages of small print!
I am perfectly happy to search for names, but you need to give me a
PLACE, or perhaps several possible places (up to say five?). You will
be more familiar than I am with the places surrounding your own place
of interest, so give me a list of surrounding places, rather than
saying "at Bloggsville or nearby".
The Directories I have for Derbyshire are:
1. Pigot & Co's Commercial Directory for DERBYSHIRE, 1835.
This is fairly minimal in its coverage - 74 pages total.
2. Glovers' Directory for the BOROUGH of DERBY, 1843.
This gives good coverage of the town, and does have one single
alphabetical list, as well as listings under Trades headings - total
of over 170 pages, about 50 pages of which are straight Directory.
3. White's Directory of DERBYSHIRE, 1857.
This lists a large number of Derbyshire places, some more fully than
others. There are descriptions of the places, plus names list -
mostly under first Gentry, then separate Trades headings. Only DERBY
TOWN has a single alphabetical listing, plus Trades headings. Total
of 996 pages, tightly packed, small print.
4. Bulmer's Directory, extract on DERBY town only, 1895.
Contains both a single alphabetical listing, plus Trades headings -
total of about 130 pages.
I am only too happy to look up any names (or places) from these
Directories, but please remember that, with the best will in the
world, I cannot search the County as a whole, only individual places
With best wishes
09--[DBY] Certificates pre-1847
Certificates are available from mid 1837 to present time.
One must first read the indexes for birth , marriage or death for the
ancestor - I am presuming you are referring to British certificates.
Family History Centres of the Latter Day Saints Churches may have copies of
the British Civil Registration Indexes. The volunteer librarian at the FHC
of the LDS will be able to guide you, and I would encourage you to contact
the nearest one and avail yourself of the facilities there. It's all free,
except if one orders films, or has print-outs from the various
fiche/film/computers, etc., which are very cheap. "Where do I start" is a
very informative brochure, available free at the LDS FHC...
When you have located the marriage for the male ancestor on the British
index, you would need a 'match' with the female - e.g., John Smith and a
Mary Brown married in 1839.. each of these would be shown on the index, and
next to John Smith's name would be a registration district, eg. Devonshire
(Volume) 5b and a page number next to that which could be 345. You would
then look for Mary Brown and she would have to have the same reg. dis. 5b
and page 345 - then you have a MATCH, which is the marriage you are looking
for. The volume and page numbers are strictly St. Catherine's house Index
codes, and used only if you apply to them for a copy of the certificate.
I recommend applying to the registration office for a certificate, these
addresses are available on the 'net'. Certificates cost £6 .50 pence plus
50 pence for a stamp, unless you have an English one. St. Cath's House at
Smedley Hydro is considerably more expensive.
Registration was suppposed to be mandatory after mid-1837, and 6 months was
the maxium allowed for registering an 'event'.
Events pre 1837 would need to be researched via Church records etc., but
first you need to work 'back' starting with yourself', your parents, and
their parents and so on. It's a fascinating hobby, and one which quickly
turns into an obsession. Happy hunting.
Beryl, Brantford, Ont. Canada.
10--[DBY] Re: Matlock and Lichfield RO's
Reply for Richard Polkinghorne
From Mike Bagworth
The Lichfield Joint Record Office is in Bird Street, Lichfield, or was when
I went there many years ago.
I list the contents page from their handlist (1978)
Subscription Books and Papers
Non-Residence Books and Papers
Licences for Curates, Schoolmasters, Parish Clerks
Surgeons and Midwives
Dissenters and Roman Catholics
(i) Dilapidation Papers
(ii) Queen Anne's Bounty
(iii) Queen Anne's Bounty Mortgage Papers
(iv) Glebe Exchanges
Consecration Deeds and Orders in Council
Papers relating to Convocation
Miscellaneous Parliamentary Returns, including Clerical Taxation
Financial Records of the Registrars and the Courts
Miscellaneous Statutory Deposits
Official but Non-Diocesan Activities of the Bishop
Acts of Parliament, Charity Commissioners' Orders etc
Rural Deans and Deaneries
Diocesan Councils and Committees
Ecclesiastical Court Records
Marriage Allegations and Bonds
Special Courts and Commissions
Presentments and Primary Visitation Returns
Parish Registers Transcripts
Penances and Absolutions
Procurations and Fees
Diocesan Records from Lichfield Cathedral Library
(i) Diocesan Boundaries
(ii) Peculiar Jurisdictions
The main interest for family historians is that the Bishops Transcripts are
deposited here. The Bishops Transcripts are a copy of the Parish Register
that should have been done each year and sent to the Bishop. These may or
may not be extant for various reasons and they may have additional
information put in by the Clerk or Minister when transcribing.
The County Record Office is in New Street, Matlock
They have the Anglican Parish registers for the Diocese of Derby which have
been deposited, likewise some Methodist, Unitarian, United Reformed, Quaker
and Roman Catholic Registers.
The Diocese covers all the parishes in Derbyshire plus a few which are now
in other counties due to boundary changes e.g. Winshill and Stapenhill.
Other interesting deposits are:
Duffield Manor Court Rolls
Quarter Session Returns
and many more
I do not have a recent list, mine is 1981
If you intend going to Matlock I can give you directions, or details of
11--[DBY] OCR software, scanners, and books online
Hello Eric Eldred, Bookpeople, MassGen, RIGen, Mayflower-L, etc.
( see Eric's original message is below and and see
I am David C. Blackwell - coordinator of the NE HG Free Books Online EFFORT
(which is still a mess because I have not had time to fix it up
and have not found enough knowledgeable volunteers to help.)
I've been using OmniPage Pro 10 (since Nov. 1999)
and it is noticeably better than OmniPage Pro 8.
I wish I had more time to use it. It is GOOD, but the ads imply it is better.
Each version of OmniPage was a improvement, but this last OP Pro 10 was the only one
that really could decently OCR newsprint or less than perfect xerographic copies.
You can see examples in the http://genweb.net/~books/ma/
sub directories look at the file dates.
If I remember correctly I first bought OmniPage Lite 4 in 1993 with my first
VERY SLOW hand fed Info scanner (on a 386 Windows 3.1 PC).
and then upgraded to the disappointing OP Pro Version 6 in 1995 and then to
the better OP Pro 8 in Nov. 1997
(when I bought a flatbed scanner (Plustek ) and an ACER Pentium 200MHz PC).
OmniPage never worked as well as its advertisements implied.
Each OP upgrade cost ~ $80, and I suspect many purchasers were disappointed with the
lack of improvement compared to the over hyped improvements that were advertised.
Many probably stopped buying it after being disappointed.
But I also suspect VERY FEW individuals are OCRing.
Of the ~ 300,000 users of http://www.rootsweb.com
I found more people transcribing a book in by hand than OCRing them.
(and not many of those.) see http://www.usgenweb.org/
And those few people who are OCRing are doing so as an on the side business
and NOT usually doing it for free.
(If you are a Rootsweb user and OCRing books for free access
please let me (DCB) know.)
Next subject - - - SCANNERS - - - - - - - - - - -
I NEED ACCESS to a FAST dual page per second scanner,
like the Kodak 3500 or Panasonic KV-SS50EX or the newer KV-S2055.
We have access to ~ 1000 UNBOUND, out of copyright local history and genealogy books.
On this type of scanner an unbound book could be scanned to G4TIFF in 10 minutes.
or to gray scale GIF in 20 minutes.
(Then it takes a day or week or more to OCR, edit, and HTMLize a book)
ALTERNATELY I need one person to donate $10,000 or
ten plus people to donate $1,000 to buy the Panasonic scanner,
(15+ to buy the Kodak).
I'll donate the first $1,000 and my "spare" (Compaq)
200 MHz NT with the necessary SCSI - scanner interface card.
(donation would be via http://www.NEHGS.org - Free Books Online Effort.)
Note - I have a chicken and egg problem here - to be an official NEHGS project
you need to donate a LARGE sum to found a specific NEHGS project,
which is why FBOE is now an effort of a few people not yet an NEHGS project.
I've used both the Kodak and the Panasonic scanners during demonstrations
and they are AMAZING. One afternoon I scanned in 20 books on the Kodak 3500.
http://genweb.net/~books/ma/andover1880/and000.shtml was one.
I use Irfan View to view G4TIFF or any large image because it scales the image
David C. Blackwell - daveblql at yahoo.com
72 Center St. Groveland, Mass. 01834
(781) 359-7551 workdays (978) 373-2358 weekends 10AM-8PM
http://genweb.net/~books/blackwell/1999letter.html - Hello
http://genweb.net/~blackwell/ my messy genealogy notes.
member http://www.NEHGS.org http://www.Mayflower.org
http://genweb.net/~books/ - NE HG Free Books Online Effort
Eric Eldred said ----
I tried Wocar 2.5 and it worked well for me.
Wocar is a free OCR program that runs under
Windows 95 or NT or 2000 only. It works
with many scanners (TWAIN interface) and
saves only to RTF files. It recognizes French
and English text. It is not fancy, but is
quite good, I think. If the author (Cyril
Cambien) could only release it for Linux,
I wouldn't have to use Microsoft! See
Recently I also tried Scansoft's TextBridge
Professional 9.0. I can't report that it is
any better than the earlier v 98, though some
changes have been made to the user interface.
Apparently it now recognizes grayscale text
but I haven't tried that yet.
You may be able to buy TextBridge OCR software
cheaply now. Just before Christmas, Egghead
Software online advertised an upgrade to version
9 for $79, made a download easy to avoid shipping
costs, and offered rebates totalling $79. I see
other rebates in newspaper ads for TextBridge now.
(Also, you may be able to buy TextBridge Pro
98--either for MS Windows or Mac--at eBay or
other auctions very cheaply now too.)
Scansoft has announced that it intends to
buy Caere, producers of Omnipage. No plans
have been announced about future versions
of OCR software. Of course, if Omnipage 10
is the last from Caere, perhaps that will be
cheap too soon.
I'd be interested in reports of what OCR
software you use and what you think of it.
"Eric" Eric Eldred Eldritch Press
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I thought it would be of interest to the other lists. DCB.
Other interesting links
http://persoweb.francenet.fr/~cambien Wocar personal free OCR software
http://www.expervision.com/predemo.html Demo OCR software - 15 save limit.
http://genweb.net/~books/bg4tiff.html - image viewer info
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9227474/english.htm - personal free IrfanView for PCs
http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html - personal free MAC image viewer convert
http://libraries.mit.edu/docs/presfilm.html microform scanning
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pictel/index.html Library of Congress Scan Report
http://bubl.ac.uk/news/surveys/1996/su072501.htm bound book scanning message
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/helpsheets/scantext.html * * * * *
http://www.scantips.com/ * * * * *
Scanning related companies -
http://www.inceptiontech.com/nframes.htm - In Andover Mass.
Yes I've done a lot of research but all the answers are complex and change constantly.
More interesting links - Maps -
Old USGS Maps of New England 1880s - 1950s
http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm TERRIFIC Site.
Current USGS maps online -
http://www.topozone.com/find.asp select 1:25,000 for full size.
also http://www.mapquest.com for current street maps and directions
Hundreds of Fabulous panoramic maps of US towns at http://memory.loc.gov
includes panoramic maps of South Weymouth, Hingham, Taunton, Attleboro, etc. These are
VERY large format images in
SID image format averaging 10 MEGAbytes each.
Some Free NE HG - New England History and Genealogy - books online links -
Professor Robert Krafts 1994 transcription with many corrections of
James Savage's 4 volume -
A Genealogical Dictionary of The First Settlers Of New England,
Showing Three Generations of Those who came before May 1692,
pub. 1860, 672 pages in 4 large text files -
History of North Bridgewater with Family Register
by Bradford Kingman, pub.1866, 696 pages transcribed by Lisa Whiting
The Pilgrims In Their Three Homes, England, Holland and America
by William Elliot Griffis (577k PDF) 116 pages, published 1898
The History of the Town of Easton Bristol County,Massachusetts
by William L. Chaffin, pub. 1886, 799 pages.
http://genweb.net/~pgriffiths/easton.html Pat Griffiths edited version
http://genweb.net/~books/ma/easton1886/east000.shtml (the raw OCR OP v8)
http://www.gentech.org Technology and Genealogy
Lots more work in progress
http://genweb.net/~blackwell/books.html - book lists by area.
http://genweb.net/~books/booksfamilies.shtml - family genealogies
http://genweb.net/~books/uk/buk.shtml - Derbyshire and UK
http://genweb.net/~books/ - NE HG Free Books Online Effort
Best Place to find interesting websites
12--[DBY] Professional Researchers
I finally got down to tracing a copy of the researchers list and
enclose it herwwith for yourself and 'All Our Readers'. It might
look a bit scrappy as it is from an OCR scan. Enjoy!
DERBYSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, RECORD OFFICE
RECORD AGENTS, TRANSCRIBERS AND CONSERVATORS
This is a list of people who have registered with Derbyshire
Record Office, New St., Matlock, Derbyshire indicating their
willingness to undertake fee-paid research, transcription or
archive conservation. The inclusion of a name on this list should
not be taken to imply any recommendation of that person by
Derbyshire Record Office. Fees are a matter for negotiation
between the agent and the customer.
1. MR D BARTON MA, ALA
Hillcrest, Bent Lane, Darley Hillside, Matlock, Derbyshire
Telephone: Matlock (01629) 732594
I8th-19th CENTURY research especially nonconformist history and
2 MRS JR COURT, Member AGRA, Registered Genealogist,IGCO
Atlowtop House, Atlow, Derbyshire, DE6 1NS
Telephone: Ashbourne (01335) 370556
Genealogical and historical research from c.1500 to the
present day at all repositories in DerSyshire, Staffordshire
Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire,Staffs, Llncolnshire, Warickshire
and London. Other counties by arrangement.
3. MRS HIL,ARY DENNIS BA (Hens)
9 Peakland View, Darley Dale, Matlock, Derbyshire DE4 2GF
Telephone: Matlock (01629) 734658
Genealogical and historical research, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
and Stafiordshire. Elsewhere by arrangement. Also living
descendants and 'lost' beneficiaries traced.
4. MRS K HENDERSON BA (Hens) History
16 Steeple Grange, Wirksworth, Derbyshire, DE4 4FS
Telephone: Matlock (01629) 825132
Genealogical researcher and record agent in DerSyshire
and Lichfield (Staffordshire). Surrounding counties and
London by arrangement.
5. MRS JD MEASHAM PhD, BA (Hens)
81 Cavendish Road, Matlock, Derbyshire Telephone:Matlock
(01629) 582764 Research in Derbyshire and at Lichfield
6. MRS AR MELLORS EA (Eons), ALA
36 Moorfield Road, Holbrook, Derby, DE56 0UA(?) Telephone:
Derby (01332) 880172
7. MR M SPENCER
6 Mettesford, Matlock, Derbyshire, DE4 3DZ
Telephone: Matlock (01629) 56932
8. MR JN THOMPSON, Member ACRA, Registered Genealogist, IGCO
St.-Ann's-in-the-Grove, Scuthowram, Halifax
West Yorkshire HX3 9SZ
Telephone: Brighouse (01484) 715450
TRANSCRIPTION/ TRANSLA TION
9. POOLE & POOLE (Eric Poole LLM, PhD; Georgina Poole MA)
239 Old Dover Road, Canterbury CT1 3ES
Telephone Canterbury (01227) 463950
Document transcribers and translators from Latin, French, Spanish
German, Italian and Old English.
10. PETER HANKS, BA (Hons), Dip. Cons.
149 Manor Rise, Walton, Stone, STAFFORDSHIRE ST15 OHY
Telephone: Stone (01785) 815730
A comprehensive book and archive conservation service.
All practical aspects of book and paper repair including maps and
parchment. Advice on environmental conditions, storage, handling
and disaster planning. Initial on-site visits and estimates are
normally free, except in the case of large scale
conservation surveys and audits. Included on the Register of
Conservators of the Museums and Galleries Commission.
A list of record agents throughout the United Kingdom published
by the Association of Genealogists and Record Agents. This is
available, price ?1.50p p (or 5 international reply coupons) from
the Secretary, 29 Badgers Close, Horsham, West Sussex RH12 5RU.
Doug Porter, Derby, England
Web Site: www.dougporter.freeserve.co.uk - includes magazine:
"Folk On Line"
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----- Original Message -----
> Could anyone recommend a professional researcher in Derbyshire
to help with a specific task dating in the 1600s?
> Thank you.
> Charles Mudd
Apparently a number of people found my posting of relationships
which doubled as an insomnia cure) useful and Diana Trenchard was kind enough
to send a further listing to me. With her permission here they are:
abavus 2nd great grandfather
aetas, aetatis age, aged
amita father's sister (aunt)
amita magna grandfather's sister (great aunt)
anno in the year of
anonym(us/a) stillborn son, daughter
stavus 3rd great-grandfather
avunculus mother's brother (uncle)
avunculus major grandmother's brother (great uncle)
baptisat(us/a) baptized (m/f)
caclebs, coclebs unmarried, single
[I have also seen this written coelebs]
conjunx, conjux wife
consobrin(us/a) cousin (m/f)
die, dies day
filia daughter, female child
filius son, male child
filius fratris brother's son, (nephew)
filius sororis sister's son, (nephew)
filia fratris brother's daughter, (niece)
filia sororis sister's daughter, (niece)
inuptus, inupta unmarried
matertera mother's sister (aunt)
matertera magna grandmother's sister (great aunt)
maximus natu eldest, firstborn
minim(us/a) natu youngest
natus, nata born
nepos grandson, (sometimes nephew)
nuptus, nupta married
obiit sine prole died without issue, childless
patres ancestors, forefathers
patruus father's brother (uncle)
patruus major grandfather's brother (great uncle)
provincia province, county
sepultus, sepulta buried
spurius, spuria illegitimate son/daughter
stemma, stenuna, gentile pedigree
testamentum will, testament
tritavus 4th great-grandfather
urbs city, town
virgo girl, virgin
Kingston upon Thames,Eng.
14--[DBY] pre-1858 Derbyshire Wills - Lichefield RO
I would like to thank all who responded in such detail to my query regarding
the indexing of pre-1858 wills at the Lichfield Record Office. I thought I
would post a summary of the information provided to me, for the benefit of
list members. The members of this list are indeed very helpful, and I'm very
grateful - my questions were answered, and a great deal more!
Regards and best wishes,
Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand (Home of the Americas' Cup)
Martin Sanders, the Archivist-in-Charge at the Lichfield Record Office very
kindly provided the following: In the calendars to wills held here entries
are arranged by initial letter of the deceased's surname then by year of
probate and then alpabetically within the year. There are 10 consistory
court calendars each covering a portion of the period from the early 16th
century up to Janurary 1858. You can contact Martin at
from Gail Thomson, the URL of David Blackwell's magnificent scanning/OCR
effort, which contains a substantial portion of the above mentioned calendars
to wills. Pages 464-686 & includes Index:
P.S. you don't need a special viewer to view the TIFF files. I just
double-clicked on them, and then opened in Microsoft Imager, which is part
from John Wildgoose:
LDS Family History Library has The Calendar of Wills, administrations and
inventories for Derbyshire on microfilm. Its number is 0095287. If you go
to the LDS site, custom search, family history library cat, place, put in
Derbyshire, click on England-derbyshire, click on next matching set of
topics at bottom of page twice, click on probate, Original wills,
administrations and inventories from various Peculiar Courts, 1510-1858
It then lists 255 films in which to order from. The address below is direct
to where you want to go.
>From Christine Sadler:
Up until recently, I thought the only way of obtaining a will was to look it
up in an index and order it in a similar way to ordering birth, marriage and
death certificates. But then I found that the Derbyshire Records Office at
Matlock holds wills which are easily accessible on microfilm and can be
photocopied there and then for about 40p a page.
from Sandy Quinn:
The LDS church have filmed these wills and I have hired a number of the
films at my local church library in Cairns. There is index film, then the
actual films sorted by letter of alphabet then a year grouping eg Surnames
being with A 1562-1687......film no. 0173020 1687-1709..........0173021
The film number for the index 1510-1858........0095287 (This is the
Peculiar Courts , the following courts are the ones covering Derbyshire)
I have the printout of all the film numbers covering the Peculiar Courts
- abt 280 films. If any one wants a lookup. Parishes of Derbyshire listed
as covered by PECULIAR COURT Dean & Chapter of Lichfield- Ashford, Bakewell,
Baslow, Beeley, Buxton,
Chapel-en-le-Frith. Chelmorton, Fairfield, Hope, Kniveton, Longston, Monyash,
Peak Forest, Sheldon. Taddington, Tideswell, Wormhill
Manorial Court of Burton on Trent- Stapenhill and Winshill Deanery Court of
Hartington- Buxton, Biggin, Burbage, Hartington, High Needham, Newham,
New Haven, Earl Sterndale and Winster Perculiar Court of Peak Forest
Prebendal Court of Sawley- Breaston, Long Eaton, Risley, Sawley & Wilne
(1639 films cover the Consistory Courts) I I got a film recently for
"P" 1775-1799" as I knew my ancestors died in this time frame . Great as
you can often pick up other's of same name dying similar time frame. And
then at our local LDS church it only cost 50c a page to do a photocopy so
for $6 to get the film I can get 4-5 Wills so very good value. The films
have only taken 1-2 months to arrive once ordered.