Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 05:06:08 -0000
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <007701c3f381$6c92da00$aea44c51@home>
Subject: [DBY] THIS WEEK IN SCHOOL CROMFORD
Hi list,
admissions to Cromford School.So far this register of admissions
is the best for giving details, people came from more than just Cromford
to attend, Bonsall and Wirksworth ,Matlock and Longwaybank being among
the places named. Sadly though it does not name parents.
Name enrolled age Reside leaving/reason/remarks
John GREGORY 28/6/69 10 Scarthin Row 1/3/72 gone to work
Saml GOULD 28/6/69 8y5m Cromford 18/12/72 obtained situation as bookking clerk on railway
James SHAW 28/6/69 9 Bole Hill 21/3/73 gone to work Willersley,gardener
Geo BRAILSFORD 20/9/69 6y4m Cromford 26/2/75 left village,gone to res nr London
James RENSHAW 29/1/72 13 Bonsall 5/7/72 gone to work apprentice to wheelwright
Edward GREGORY 28/6/69 6y11m Scarthin Row 19/2/75 gone to work at Lea Mills
Tho BARKER 28/6/69 5y 7m Scarthin Row 28/5/75 gone to reside Wirksworth
John BODEN 20/9/69 6y 5m Scarthin Row 10/4/73 driving donkeys at Matlock Bath
makes some interesting reading .Lea Mills still operates today, and
donkeys were in use in Matlock Bath presumably just as they are on
Skegness beach, without the sand!.
more to follow
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:30:30 -0000
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <001c01c3f549$748b2680$85024e51@home>
Subject: [DBY] THIS WEEK AT SCHOOL CROMFORD
Hi list,
more admissions to Cromford School.
Name adm age residence left reason/remarks
Tho OLDFIELD 5/6/71 8y 6m Longwaybank 5/9/72 Rem to Whatstandwell
Tho ARMER 21/9/70 6y 1m Cromford 2/12/73 because punished for willfully
throwing a stone at a boy
severely injuring his head.
Wm EATON 5/7/71 7y 3m Cromford drowned in canal whilst bathing
Newton WRIGHT 14/3/72 7 Bonsall dead
Joseph TAYLOR 22/3/72 12 Starkholmes 28/6/72 gone to work at Tansley mill
Peter WORTHY 6/5/72 4y 11m Cromford 6/11/74 because mother unwilling for
him to conform to discipline
Geo Henry BRITAIN 3/6/72 6y 9m Cromford 8/11/72 gone to live with parents
at London
Geo Henry BRITAIN 18/8/73 7y 11m Water Lane 19/12/73 gone to live with parents
at London, come on a visit
to grand parents
nice bits of info,hope some of it's yours.
mike
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:32:36 -0000
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <009501c3fa19$e2141840$5e004e51@home>
Subject: [DBY] THIS WEEK AT SCHOOL MIDDLETON BY WIRKSWORTH
Hi list,
early admission register for Middleton by Wirksworth School ,it
doesn't give parents but occupations of parents and means of previous
Instruction which basically is which school if any was attended before.
Again I have concentrated on those names which give details about
previous existences . The register as you would imagine,if you are
familiar with MbW is full of Spencer references. On this list only one
is mentioned, the rest stayed put.
Name adm date age Parents Occupation Prev Inst left
Mary MORRIS 68/5 12 .3 blacksmith Carsington 68/8 left par
Rbt FROST 68/7 7.3 shoemaker Prvt Sch Sheffield 68/9 lft par
John SLACK 68/9 5.7 farmer none 73/5 parent offended
by home lessons
Ada BUCKLEY 68/9 4.1 miner none 71/4 would not pay fees
Frances BLOORE 68/11 9.6 land merchant Wirksworth NS 70/4 lft par.
Wm ELCE (Fred) 69/6 11.0 mechanic Prvt Sch 73/4 Grammar Sch
Ann BAINBRIDGE 69/9 10.6 Tollgate kpr Brassington ------------
Edward KIRBY 69/10 12.6 Dead Oldham NS ill health
Rich BIRLEY 71/3 11.10 stone cutter Pentrich work
Wm BARNES 71/3 12.10 labourer Pentrich work
Mary LEA 71/6 9.10 miner London 71/7 left parish
Wm CORDAY 71/7 6.7 miner Wirksworth 71/9 because he was punished
more to follow.
mike
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:50:00 -0000
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <003f01c3fa5f$5f236c60$44124e51@home>
Subject: [DBY] THIS DAY IN SCHOOL MIDDLETON BY WIRKSWORTH
Hi list,
further admissions for MbyW .
MIDDLETON BY WIRKSWORTH School Admisions
name adm date age parents occup. previous instruction left
Clara DOXEY 71/8 6.10 miner Manchester 1y 8m lft par 71/9
James FRANKLIN 71/10 11.10 carpenter Chobham Sch -----------
Sarah KILKENNEY 73/7 9.0 wid Burton 73/10 fact work
Eliza HOULGATE 73/9 9.3 farmer Temple Normanton 73/9 ret to friends
Annie CARTER 73/12 5.7 cabman London -----------------
Elizabeth CHAPELL 74/1 11.5 --------- Burbage -----------------
Alfred ROWE 74/3 11.5 coach builder Liverpool St Lukes 75/3 no reason
Wm WARD 11/12/76 4.10 --------- Lincoln ------------------
Sarah WRAGG 1/5/76 born 68/7 quarrymman Staveley NS -----------------
Those above and on the previous Middleton By Wirksworth school
Admissions all had as their residence Middleton.
The two below were different
Annie SPENCER 14/8/76 5.2 Residence,Manchester ------------ Manchester ------------
Martha DOXEY 14/8/76 4.11 " " "
The two above both enrolled on the same day,were they related ?
The difficult part is leaving so many children out of these lists,but
they are basically all local and if your ancestors were in MbyW at
this time and had children you should be able to find similar records.
Later registers may give more like parents names.
mike
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:58:17 -0000
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <008001c4067d$d5ed64c0$9d2b4e51@home>
Subject: [DBY] THIS DAY IN SCHOOL WIRKSWORTH NATIONAL
Hi list,
Admissions from Wirksworth National School from 1871-79.Again
only a few,but the ones with useful "locate me elsewhere " information.
This register does not give many leaving dates up to this point.Didn't
have time to do much today but I hope some will find it useful.
Adm name DOB Parent/guardian/place last school
-/5/71 John PIDCOCK 17/1/64 John, Green Hill
-/3/73 Ernest MASKREY 25/4/66 Hugh WALL, Wash Green, Middleton Natnl
12/5/75 Wm AUSTIN 12/8/68 Geo.,Bole Hill Crich Carr
-/12/76 Alfred WARDMAN 12/6/64 John BREWELL, Dale
7/7/78 Wm PATTON 5/5/64 Water Lane Warmbrook Belper Natnl
13/5/78 Alfred WILSON 21/9/70 Geo Thomas, St Lukes,Leeds
31/3/79 Benj. ABELL 2/11/65 Henry, Gerrard St,Derby
2710/79 Tho ALLEN 12?/4/73 John, Wash Green Ripley
2/11/79 Albert BOTHAM 9/5/33? Tho., live Idridgehay , Idridgehay
1/12/79 Samuel SMITH 21/9/67 Wm.,North End Ashton
only a few, but hopeful all the way.
mike
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:44:23 +0100
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <016401c42300$875540e0$451d4e51@home>
Subject: THIS DAY IN SCHOOL Matlock All Saints
Hi list,
Admissions from the Matlock All Saints School admission register.
Unfortunately the teacher never recorded the date when the child left.
Again it's only those children who had a previous school outside of Matlock
who are listed, so once again if your ancestors had children on the likes
of Wilmot Street or Jackson Road, John Street or The Dimple and area
they are most likely in this volume as this was the nearest school.
Adm name parent address previous DOB
7/1/95 Saml WHEELDON Mrs WHEELDON Spring Villas Bradford 11/3/89
grandparent
27/2/95 FredChas PHILLIPS James. Wilmot St. Bakewell 5/8/87
8/4/95 Doris Evelyn PALMER John. Wilmot St. Nottingham 28/1/90
8/4/95 Maudel PALMER John. Wilmot St. Nottingham 15/8/91
18/6/95 Elsie COOK Tho Darley Hillside Two Dales 2/8/87
22/8/95 Walter H THOMPSON Geo. Kelvin Grove Liverpool Brd 10/1/89
26/8/95 John POYSER Wm Matlock Moor St Lukes Crosby 9/7/83
16/9/95 Jas Hy WILDGOOSE Frank H. Oak St Sheffield 25/7/87
18/11/95 Rachel WRAGG Barbara. Jackson Rd Leicester Brd 10/1/84
15/10/95 Isabella F HALKSWORTH Chas. Smedley St. Wirksworth Brit. 19/4/86
dead
4/5/96 Geo BATES Fanny Mrs Jackson Rd Derby All Sts 18/3/85
15/6/96 Wm S TOFT Benjamin. New St. Youlgreave 24/8/87
1/3/98 May BAILEY Peter 37 Stowe St Lichfield St Chads 1/9/91
you may be lucky.
mike
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:32:08 +0100
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <019001c42307$33c66600$451d4e51@home>
Subject: THIS DAY IN SCHOOL Matlock All Saints
Hi list,
further from Matlock All Saints school .These entries from
the Log Book say very little about the individual child,although there
are occassional references, but basically what was happening at the
school collectively.
11 Oct 1875 the pupils were taught the song "Catch the sunshine"
Five weeks later another song to drive the mums and dads mad was being taught.
18 Nov 1875 Taught the school song "Over the Lea "
27 Jun 1876 many children away hay making
24 Jul 1876 many children away, hooping cough (teachers spelling,not mine !)
18 Sep 1876 average attendance 110
30 Jul 1877 many children away gathering fruit
30 Jul 1877 Annie HITCHCOCK appointed monitor.
Jane KING was appointed as an assistant some time later.
8 Jul 1878 Jane KING requested to go home as her mother had a stroke.
9 Jul 1878 Jane KING admitted that it was untrue her mother had a stroke.
The school sent a telegram to ask about her welfare. Jane KING was
dismissed on the 9 July.
5 May 1879 Sarah Brailsford Selina Paulson SHELTON former Mistrees in
St Ann infant school Nottingham appointed
18 Jul 1879 Sarah Elizabeth BAGSHAW, Elizabeth WHITE and Annie SMITH
were presented with prizes by Mrs J.C. ARKWRIGHT.
Sarah BAGSHAW for plain needlework and the other two girls for button holes
hope some of you get a little something from this sparse attempt to bring
to life the life of the children at All Saints. The Log Book is full of
the names of those visiting, namely the ARKWRIGHTS and Mr MELVILLE the
Vicar who seemed to "drop in " almost every week.The average attendance
of 110 gives you some idea of how little is recorded on this list from
the Admission registers.
mike
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:15:25 +0100
From: "michael spencer"
To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <007e01c42852$bc4b5760$6ea14c51@home>
Subject: SCHOOL ADM AND LOG BOOKS
Hi list,
for the benefit of those interested in school records and
wondering if such records exist at DRO here is a partial list of places
having either, L = Log Books or A = Admission Registers.I must state this
list covers only Adm and Log Books for earleir than 1900, there may be
later ones not listed.
There may also be more than one school in the place in which you are
interested, and the "L" or " A " may not apply to your little Tommys
school. However on the basis you do not know which school he went to
anyway, the only way to find out is to look and see if he appears in
the books for the school mentioned. If he does, all well and good,
if he doesn't at least you know he more than likely went to one of
the others.
In 1880 the law required all children to attend school up to the age
of ten, by 1893 it was raised to eleven and in 1899 unless employed in
agriculture you were at school until 12. In 1914 it was raised again
to 14 , then to 15 in 1947 and 16 in 1965. So there you have a time
scale to help you see if Tommy should have been in school or not.
We start with the places beginning with the letter "A".If the place
you want does not appear it basically means no school records concerning
Log Books and Admission rgeisters are held at DRO.It is possible a "rogue"
book may survive in a totally different location within the records at
DRO and not among "School Board Records", but this is a rarity.
One last thought, please do not put DRO under Log Book strain, they are
understaffed at present and some may also be on holiday. Far better if
you can stagger your requests if you cannot get there yourself. Remember
if they check it for you there is a search fee of eleven pounds, and one
other small point, I have to face them the next day. Enough said.
ALDERWASLEY L (Log Book) A ( Admission register) pre 1900
ALLESTREE L
ALVASTON L A
APPERKNOWLE L
ASHBOURNE L
ASHFORD L
ASHOVER L
ASTON L A
Log books deal with what is going on in the school ,the village may get
a mention because of illnesses going round, the weather, the fair coming
to town, who visited the school ,lessons, attendances, awards,
Inspectors reports on the standard and occassionally a pupil may be
mentioned.
Admission registers generally give details about the pupil and can be a
good source of when a family left the area, where they went and also
name previous schools.
The early ones begin about 1875 but by no means all do, sometimes only a
few years survive in one register in the late 1800's.
Hope this will prove to be of some use.
mike
From: michael spencer
Subject: [DBY] THIS DAY IN SCHOOL MIDDLETON by WIRKSWORTH
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:07:35 +0100
To: [DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com]
Reply-To: mike@decc9.fsnet.co.uk
Hi list,
entries from the Log Book of Middleton by Wirksworth School.
17 Dec 1875 a very fair school this week considering the inclemency
of the weather.
6 Jan 1876 The children have been very unpunctual and careless all week.
The home lessons have been badly done.
4 Feb 1876 John SPENCER left the school on Tuesday because he was sent
home for coming repeatedly after registers were closed.
11 Feb 1876 an accident occured during the dinner time on Wednesday by
which G..THOMPSON (who was staying dinner) got his arm severely injured.
17 Mar 1876 Miss SPENCER absent yesterday and today as suffering from
Neuralgia.
31 Mar 1876 List of Songs
Far Away
Oh come come away
The pit boy
Lightly row
Ye mariners of England
5 May 1876 Rachel PRESTON teacher 2nd Class
Sarah SPENCER Asst teacher
Anne SPENCER pupil teacher
12 May 1876 sent after the absentees and found the excuse given in most
cases was "wanted to assist in cleaning "
2 Jun 1876 prevalence of bronchitis
23 Jun 1876 3rd Standard, David SPENCER is still very backward.
30 Jun 1876 Pupil teacher left.
and I ain't related to one.
more to follow
mike
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From: Kath Marvill
Subject: Re: [DBY] School Logbooks, Wirksworth
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:46:51 +0100
To: 
Hi John
Re:
Geo Henry BRITAIN 3/6/72 6y 9m Cromford 8/11/72
gone to live with parents at London
Geo Henry BRITAIN 18/8/73 7y 11m Water Lane 19/12/73
gone to live with parents at London,
come on a visit to grand parents
Could this be George Henry Britain in 1881?
Armford a mis-transciption for Cromford?
Regards
Kath Marvill
Household Record 1881 British Census
Name-Relation-Marital Status-Gender-Age-Birthplace-Occupation-Disability
Thomas BRITTAIN-Head-M-Male-42-Birmingham, Warwick,England-Die Sinker
Mary BRITTAIN-Wife-M-Female-41-Armford, Derby, England-Wife Of Die Sinker
George H. BRITTAIN-Son-Male-15-London, Middlesex, England-Scholar
Thomas A. BRITTAIN-Son-Male-8-London, Middlesex, England-Scholar
William College BRITTAIN-Son-Male-6-London, Middlesex, England-Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling 147 Bradford St
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341721
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3017 / 49
Page Number 42
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